Power struggle – Oddo to Brown: Tone it down

Soft-spoken Oddo gives Brown 4-point ultimatum to avoid removal: # 1. Stop writing letters and blogging

Fayette County Commissioner Charles “Chuck” Oddo, who is challenging fellow commissioner Steve Brown for the chairman’s seat Thursday night, has indicated in a December email that Brown has been too controversial in making public statements regarding the county.

In an email to Brown Dec. 1, Oddo listed a number of changes he said had to happen to insure Oddo’s support of Brown as chairman and to keep Oddo from running for the top post himself. Among those changes are for Brown to stop submitting editorials to the newspaper and posting blogs.

Oddo also asked Brown to “consult with your fellow commissioners before taking public positions or making public comments on policy, staff, or any other considerations that pertain to the county.” Oddo said he also wanted Brown to “stop publicly referring negatively to individuals, whether or not by name and whether or not related to the county.”

“That, also, is unbecoming of the chairman and his position, and reflects badly on the entire board,” Oddo wrote.

Brown said Monday that he “would not comply with that kind of blackmail.”

“I cannot imagine anyone behind this kind of extortion being our representative in the regional government,” Brown said, referring to the chairman of the commission serving as the county’s representative on the Atlanta Regional Commission. “We would give into every liberal demand they would come up with.”

In the email, Oddo urges Brown to “become a team leader,” saying he had wrestled with the idea of whether or not to draw a line on the matter.

“You are capable of being chairman, but you have a different approach that I don’t feel is always appropriate,” Oddo wrote. “It’s not so much what you say as how you say it, and not so much what you do as how you do it.”

Oddo explains that in his view, the county “needs a chairman who is strong, but who also avoids controversy.”

“The county needs a chairman to be extra cautious of the ramifications of his statements and actions,” Oddo wrote. “Neither of these conditions rise to the level of requisite on your chair-meter. ... Bear in mind, an inescapable duty of the chairman is to represent the board of commissioners and Fayette County as its figurehead. Everything you do or say reflects on the commissioners or the county. We need positive representation at all times.”

Brown in a Monday email said Oddo’s demands boil down to “you doing what we tell you to do and thinking how we want you to think.”

“The terms are pretty clear: 1. No freedom of speech unless I allow them to censor it first; 2. I cannot have a position on anything unless I clear it through them and they approve it; 3. I can only behave and think the way they do also known as ‘team’; 4. By stop publicly referring negatively to individuals’ he means I am not allowed to support a candidate and call someone for telling blatant campaign lies (Ironically, this was acceptable when I was supporting the candidacy of commissioners Oddo and Barlow).

Oddo said if Brown would not commit to the changes, he would no longer support Brown as chairman but would support him as a fellow commissioner.

“My goal is to have a board of commissioners, led by a chairman, that work together on the same page,” Oddo wrote.

Oddo’s letter to Brown is reproduced in its entirety below:

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From: Charles Oddo

Sent: Sun 12/1/2013 7:49 PM

To: Steve Brown

Subject: Follow up to 11/25/13 meeting

12/1/2013

Good Evening Steve,

I want to thank you for taking the time to listen to my concerns when we met this past Monday, 11/25, as well as the previous discussions we’ve had about the same subject. I also want to thank you for doing the job you’ve done over the past year. I don’t take lightly the tremendous effort you’ve put forth.

Truthfully, I’d rather not be in the position that I now find myself. You and I have had some discussions over the months and have agreed to disagree as you put it. I know you understand my feelings, and trust you also understand my opinions don’t deter from the appreciation I have for you and the work you’ve done.

Steve, I have to balance my decisions against what is in the best interests of the County. The County needs a Chairman who is strong, but who also avoids controversy. The County needs a Chairman to be extra cautious of the ramifications of his statements and actions. Neither of these conditions rise to the level of requisite on your Chair-meter.

I’ve wrestled with whether or not to draw a line, and I’ve waited, hoping for change, but I believe by writing your letter to our nominee for the Development Authority, the time has come. You are capable of being Chairman, but you have a different approach that I don’t feel is always appropriate.

IT’S NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU SAY AS HOW YOU SAY IT, AND NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU DO AS HOW YOU DO IT.

You asked me to put in writing my concerns and what I would like to see change. Bear in mind, an inescapable duty of the chairman is to represent the Board of Commissioners and Fayette County as its figurehead. Everything you do or say reflects on the Commissioners and the County. We need positive representation at all times. So, with that in mind,

In order to receive my continued support, I must see the following critical changes:

1) Discontinue blogging and editorializing. There may be times editorials could be appropriate, but not without the professional courtesy of advising your fellow Board members and considering the objections they may have. It is unbecoming to see the Chairman in verbal fisticuffs with citizens and it is detrimental to our success as a Board.

2) Consult with your fellow commissioners before taking public positions or making public comments on policy, staff, or any other considerations that pertain to the County.

3) Become a team leader. Communication and teamwork are not part-time. You have not been entirely willing to commit yourself to teamwork in your role as chairman, and that must change.

4) Stop publicly referring negatively to individuals, whether or not by name and whether or not related to the county. That, also, is unbecoming of the chairman and his position, and reflects badly on the entire Board.

Steve, you must commit to these changes now. If you cannot, I’ll accept your decision and I will continue to support you as Commissioner, but I will not continue to support you as Chairman.

Considering you have already expressed such changes would be difficult at best, I believe it is appropriate that the other Commissioners have an option for Chairman, and I will offer myself as that option if they so choose.

The other Commissioners are not yet aware of my position. It’s only proper I share my thoughts with you first. But, I do plan on sharing a copy of this email with each Commissioner before I leave town Wednesday.

My goal is to have a Board of Commissioners, led by a Chairman, that work together on the same page.

My desire is that Steve Brown makes a decision in the best interests of the County.

Regardless of my feelings on the Chairmanship, I have appreciated your friendship over the months and expect our friendship to continue.

Regards,

Chuck

Charles W. Oddo

Vice Chairman

Fayette County Commissioner, Post 1

140 Stonewall Avenue West - Suite 100

Fayetteville, GA 30214

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And Made up. Nothing but a family squabble. They all re-elected Brown Chairman. (For better or Worse, depending on who you ask)

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What, specifically, did you not like in my writings over 2013 while I was chairman? I would be glad to dialog on whatever you raise.

Many thanks.

Steve Brown

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Huh, journalism?

To dialog or to conversate that is the question.

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TinCan and Journalism

Whatever you want to call it, it's a fair question--and I don't see any response from "Ruth Kimble".

Plumber info should be in your "Inbox"!

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Steve Brown's blogging and editorials

Here we go again. Peachtree City voters refused to re-elect Steve Brown as mayor for PRIMARILY this reason. Unfortunately, Steve fashions himself as some sort of modern day political Robin Hood. In Steve's mind, the end ALWAYS justifies the means (including nasty personal attacks). Civility be damned.
Well, IMHO, we need a lot more CIVILITY. Steve Brown will never change. While I respect Steve's opinions, his METHODS leave much to be desired. In this case, the baby (Steve Brown) AND the stinky bathwater both need to go. Steve, please MOVE and go find a new community to embarrass.

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Mudcat

You just cannot help it, can you? Stir the pot.

However I did get a good laugh from your post.

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Several houses in Southampton for sale.

I think that is within new district the NAACP has forced us to create. I think Steve once said he used to belong to he NAACP and he does have a certain liberal bias so maybe he'll be moving there before the district thing catches up to him. And even it does, he can campaign as well as Obama and get enough votes to stay on county commission.

Sad that he's not black.

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Mudcat - What's

What's your point exactly? Are you saying that Mr. Brown is a politician? I would say that Mr. Brown will do whatever is necessary to get re-elected. You don't really think that he's going to stop his career as a County Commissioner to you?

No, Mr. Brown is going to be a career politician, these are simply the first steps in his journey through the political wasteland.

Even in the 1970's Mr. Carter was considered a "conservative" from the South. LOL

Mr. Brown is in it for the long haul.

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I am astonished at Chuck

I am astonished at Chuck Oddo's criticism of Steve Brown. After reading Chuck Oddo’s letter, I am convinced that Steve Brown must be doing an outstanding job as chairman if the worst thing that Oddo can say about him is what is included in this letter. With serious issues facing Fayette County, the commissioners criticizing Steve Brown have shown themselves to be petty, immature and not deserving of public support. I support Steve Brown 100%.

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Bear & Comm. Oddo`

As a recent sign'up to the website, no way to know your history in following Comm. Oddo--You might benefit by calling him an arranging a 1 on 1 discussion--my peronal experience tells me he will honor that and it may serve to answer some of your concerns/questions.

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what do Arctic Bear, johenry, Silence Dogwood Fran Shelton

have in common? Track them back and see if here is a common owner.

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Charles Oddo

Would you tear down an office building because you didn't like the entrance foyer? I don't question your honesty or integrity, I don't question your desire to see governance in Fayette County be conducted in a more civil and harmonious fashion, I do question your experience in dealing with what has been at times, one of the nastiest political environments in the State of Georgia.

Please consider that while many people are blaming Barlow for all of this commotion, he's just flat out not smart enough to put all of this scheme together by himself. Devious yes, smart no! Barlow is simply a cheap sock puppet that has already outlived his usefulness to the not so secret puppeteer. Please note that as of today that I am not the only contributor to these blogs to recognize the fingerprints of said third party. And more importantly some of those contributors are/were in Barlow's core support group.

Get up in Steve Brown's face and slap him backwards if you feel the need but let's have communication instead of war. There are a lot of people that have worked to hard for too long to see what we have now dissolve into the chaos and maneuvering that was.

And, whether you like the phrase or not, please don't allow yourself to be used like a two dollar ......

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The inexperience is noted when he foolishly sent the email. The conversation should have been enough.

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MajorMike: Good stuff

This commission is doing a helluva job in my opinion and this is a nasty sidetrack to the progress they have made. I really couldn't stand Barlow and Huddleston was the much better candidate, but that was then and we have to deal with the now.

If Brown can muzzle it a bit, the FC Commission has a chance to deal with governance instead of a bunch of BS instead. They were on the right track and now it's time to get the train back on the rails. Give Brown an up or down vote as chair and then move on back to what you were doing before. PLEASE!

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It will all work out.

It was too enticing not to take a peek at the blogs this morning.

Mrobinson_ptc said what I hear generally from political opposition related to my speaking out on issues, “I think that Steve is entitled to his opinion, but when you are in a position of political influence, you must temper your opinion with decorum and professionalism, two qualities that seem to be lacking in certain editorials from the current chairman.” I have asked, show me where it is lacking in editorials from the chairman?”

I have asked and several of my colleagues have asked, “Show us, and provide some examples, of something written by Brown as chairman that you feel is not factual or professional.” I asked this of Commissioner Oddo. He produced a one line blog by “Steve Brown” (no chairman, no BOC) that said, “I support Vanessa Fleisch for PTC Mayor.” Is that the “verbal fisticuffs with citizens” he referred to?

Now if someone wants to find a better example of something I have written while chairman, I would be glad to discuss it (you know I will ).

I had a guy who is on the other side of the political fence from me call to say there is never any doubt where I stand on an issue, researched and thought out, and I always give the other side a fair hearing, wishing me luck. That is all I can ask for.

That is why with all my dealings in Peachtree City and the County that I have always pushed to give citizens the broadest opportunities for speech at public meetings. You will not find a greater provision for public speech at government meetings anywhere in the county’s history.

And yes, Mrobinson_ptc, this “is a matter of prohibiting speech.” I was told that “discontinue blogging and editorializing” meant stop doing it in total. I am sure Mrobinson_ptc would not agree with that either.

The chairmanship vote is primarily about the various views on the county’s Water System. All the rest of the discourse from commissioners involved is sideshow. We are doing the public’s business and this should be done in public. There will be some issues like the Water System where there will be severe disagreement. Ultimately, you have to state your argument and move on (Obviously, that has not been easy on the Water System issue. I provided the reporters with some emails proving the point.)

I truly hope things work out no matter who is chairman. Guessing, I would say we had unanimous votes approaching 99% of the time (I recall two 4-1 votes). I like all of my colleagues on the Board of Commissioners, good guys, and it is always difficult to let go of some issues, but I think we will be able to make it happen regardless of who is sitting in the middle seat on the dais.

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never mind - it's pointless :)

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Born, Nuk, and Spy

Okay, Nuk, Spy, and Born, we need to break this thing down and do a little analyzing. I do understand that you do not like Steve Brown.

However, last year his fellow commissioners chose Steve Brown chairman of the commission.

As the year went along a difference of opinion occurred between Steve Brown and one of his fellow commissioners. That happens every day in every office throughout the world.

That difference of opinion escalated and it seems that two commissioners decided that they would do something about the situation.

One of the commissioners wrote a letter to Steve Brown, basically, saying that that commissioner did not like the manner in which Steve Brown conducted himself and that he did not like the things Mr. Brown said. He also said that if Steve Brown did not speak and conduct himself in the manner in which the author of the letter saw fit, he would throw his hat in the ring, so to speak, for commission chairman.

What would you call that? Would you call that advice, or a warning, or a threat, or an attempt to squelch Mr. Brown’s free speech? If you don’t say and do as some of us think you should, we will remove you from your position as chairman. It could be termed advice, a warning, a threat, an attempt to squelch Mr. Brown’s free speech, or politics.

Whatever you want to call it, it is telling someone that if they don’t say or do as someone else sees fit, they will pay the consequences. So, if Mr. Brown wants to keep his position as chairman, he will have to comply with saying and doing whatever someone else wants.

Born, exactly what “outrageous” thing has Mr. Brown said with regard to this difference of opinion problem? How, exactly, has Mr. Brown hurt the Fayette County BOC? For that matter, what “outrageous” thing has Mr. Brown said in conjunction with anything? Aren’t we all entitled to our own opinions?

Sure, I could call my boss an idiot, and he would most certainly fire me. I would have to pay the price for my free speech. However, Steve Brown didn’t call his boss an idiot. He didn’t call any one of his fellow commissioners an idiot that I am aware of.

What, exactly, has Mr. Brown said that would cause him to be fired as commission chairman? Please tell me! I haven’t heard or read anything from Mr. Brown that was “outrageous” or that would warrant his removal as chairman.

Mr. Brown has brought transparency to Fayette County government, and some folks just don’t like it.

Personally speaking, I can see how some former commissioners recognize an opportunity to drive a wedge within our commission in order to take advantage of this year’s upcoming election and district voting. I can also see how former disgruntled county employees might recognize an opportunity to exact revenge on Mr. Brown by driving a wedge within the current commission. I am told that one of those former county employees will speak at tonight’s commission meeting.

This hurricane in a teacup can be morphed into many different scenarios.

We could sit here and debate every aspect of this situation all day and it still wouldn’t change the fact that we do not have a say in tonight’s decision. It doesn’t change the fact that Steve Brown has diligently worked to provide every Fayette citizen with every opportunity to exercise his free speech within our county government.

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ginga: Sigh

You don't understand the whole concept of the US Constitutional right to free speech whatsoever and it is useless discussing it with you if you believe that anything going on now is in any way an infringement on Steve Brown's or any other politician or citizen's 1st Amendment rights.

As much as pumpkin + Don Haddix = blind,cult-following worship, you might have them beat with you + Steve Brown. C'mon....take the blinders off already. You're better than this.

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You still do not understand.

As far as liking SB, who cares?

I honestly thought he was attempting to change until this hit the fan. Time will tell. I just want professionalism from our elected officials. Is that too much to ask? Did you like Ex Mayor Haddix ramblings on here? Did you think it was proper?

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Ginga - You Just Don't Get it, Do you?

You asserted that Chairman Brown's First Amendment Rights were being denied by the mere request of another Fayette County Commissioner. It has been clearly explained to you that the government at no time denied Mr. Brown the right to speak as he pleases. The First Amendment to the Constitution prohibits the GOVERNMENT from denying the right of free speech.

When one refuses to understand even the most basic tenets of our Bill of Rights, should any reader expect that she understands the more complex concepts of government?

You be the judge.

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Look at Free Speech this way and it will make sense

Mr. Oddo's assertions that Mr. Brown is harming the 4 county commissioners is simply because Brown is denying THEM the right of Free Speech. How so? When Brown signs something he has written as Chairman of County Commission the reader assumes he is speaking for the entire commission - all 5 of them. Oddo's point is Brown does not speak for all of them unless the other 4 are aware of what is being written and that they actually approve it. Obviously when Brown goes off on a rant, signs as chairman and the other 4 don't even know about it - well, that's way off the reservation and unacceptable.

In other words the other 4 commissioners have a right to Free Speech and Brown taking that away from them preemptively. So there is looking at it from another viewpoint.

2 hours to go. Get ready Mr. Ognio. Don't let us down.

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Steve you were asked to quit blogging

And you would be wise to take this advice. We recently had one local Mayor who failed to do so and you see how far it got him. If you can't see that it unbecoming of our County Leaders to do so, then I can't help.

You were not asked to never put an editorial in the paper again, just that you run it by your fellow Council members.

I treasure our local paper, it brings out the best and the worst of folks at times.

As far as taking away your "Free Speech"..this has nothing to do with that. You are free to keep spitballing on here and folks will continue to draw their own conclusions, including your fellow Councilmen.

Have a good day.

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You are the right guy to be chairman. We need someone strong, who is not afraid of controversy. And I'm sorry, I shouldn't say this, but I was raised in the church, and I'm always very leery of anyone that pulls God and Jesus into the conversation when things don't go their way. Like they have a monopoly on God and the rest of us are lowly infidels.

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Spyglass, Not Reasonable

What I read did not seem to be a "request," and it certainly isn't reasonable to deny someone's constitutional right of free speech. Denying someone's free speech is a very scary thing in my estimation. The way I look at it is if freedom of speech can be denied to a public official, it can most certainly be denied to you, me and anyone else.

One of the main things Steve Brown has done since day one of becoming a commissioner is fight for all Fayette citizens' right to free speech.

Spyglass, during a commission meeting with Jack Smith as chairman, my husband was trying to address the commission in a very "reasonable" and professional manner. When my husband asked that a group in the audience silently stand for one brief second, Mr. Smith screamed at him and the rest of our group to sit down and be quiet. We just wanted the commissioners to see how many people in the audience were opposed to the issue.

Condoning the denial of anyone's freedom of speech makes you "clueless."

Please tell me how speaking to the public about public matters has hurt this county.

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ginga1414: Free Speech

You clearly have no idea what the 1st Amendment says about free speech. Here's the amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Clearly that is not what is happening here. Yes, we all have the right to say anything (within reason) but....words have consequences. I cannot walk into my boss's office, call him an idiot and expect there not to be consequences. So yeah, The Brown Clown can continue to blog, say outrageous things and be his usual obnoxious self but if he chooses that, then the other Commissioners have the right to respond as they see fit and what is in the best interest of the Fayette Co BOC.

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Not sure why this is so confusing to some..

But I will say again, that Free Speech is not a part of this discussion. Nobody's Free Speech has been violated...But others have said the same thing and you don't appear to be listening.

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FREE SPEECH!!!! Part 2

How exactly is Stevie's right to free speech being taken away? Is Oddo going to have him thrown in jail if Brown ignores the requests to stop blogging here or writing anything he feels in the newspaper?

Do you have ANY understanding at all about the 1st Amendment of this country because you sure aren't showing any of it.

We've already been through this with Brown before as well as Haddix lately. Neither has a clue about "free speech." Haddix paid for it with the shellacking he took a couple of months ago and Brown is having problems because he feels he can say whatever, wherever, and if people don't like it, tough. Sorry....there is no such thing as free speech without reprisals, whether that is from you fellow commissioners or the public.

If he's removed as chairman, how has any free speech rights been violated at all? He's still elected and still has a vote that counts as much as the others.

This isn't in any way a "free speech" issue and it sure isn't anything to do with "blackmail" or "extortion."

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The Bill of Rights - Nuk_1

Free speech is only one of the Bill of Rights that most Americans misinterpret. The fact is that most Americans don't know much about the Constitution, its history or its philosophical underpinnings.

Any small move toward knowledge of what our Law protects is never a wasted effort. This is the primary reason that I post here and "debate" notable posters. Our precious and unique history is lost on most Americans that today trade entitlement for their own Freedoms.

Much like our most recent former mayor, there is nothing restricting Mr. Brown from revealing his character and leadership skills on these pages. He has a rich history of doing so. His supporters have nothing to worry about, I am certain that he will continue.

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when I grow up

I want to be a "notable poster"

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All of Oddo's requests seem reasonable to me, one problem

Steve Brown isn't reasonable. It is HIS way or the Highway. Not a smidgen of leadership. Folks in the County can't say they weren't warned of Brown's ways. It took him exactly how long to divide this current Council?

And I read elsewhere in the paper he's rambling on about his "free speech" rights...he's clueless.

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johenry is absolutely right

Squash Steve Brown, and we will be right back where we started. Hearn and Jack Smith will come back in and take over.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some of our previous commission has been pushing this whole thing.

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They love the hating!!!

It's like all three of the Brown haters just can't stop!!!

I'm sure they'd love to take away Steve Brown's free speech.

The letter writers were exactly right about David Barlow and Charles Oddo. Silence Steve Brown and we get Jack Smith and his dirty deeds back.

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Free Speech?

What are you rambling about?

Do you understand how that has no place in this discussion?

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Because there are only two choices - Brown or Tyranny

I'm sorry, but I can't honestly believe that if Steve Brown is "silenced", there will be an immediate and permanent regression into tyranny and dirty deeds.

I think that Steve is entitled to his opinion, but when you are in a position of political influence, you must temper your opinion with decorum and professionalism, two qualities that seem to be lacking in certain editorials from the current chairman.

It's not a matter of prohibiting speech; it's about understanding professionalism. A little restraint and decorum go a long way.

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Believe it! Honestly!!!

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Oddo's requests do seem reasonable to most people

All he's asking is to be a grownup and act like a leader or at the very least stop acting like a lone wolf.

Of course Steve Brown marches to a different drummer, so his response is this----

"Brown in a Monday email said Oddo’s demands boil down to “you doing what we tell you to do and thinking how we want you to think.”

“The terms are pretty clear: 1. No freedom of speech unless I allow them to censor it first; 2. I cannot have a position on anything unless I clear it through them and they approve it; 3. I can only behave and think the way they do also known as ‘team’; 4. By stop publicly referring negatively to individuals’ he means I am not allowed to support a candidate and call someone for telling blatant campaign lies (Ironically, this was acceptable when I was supporting the candidacy of commissioners Oddo and Barlow)."

Yikes! From Brown's point of view Oddo is the Taliban.
Oddo the Taliban - kind of catchy and he does have those Mediterranean eyes. Maybe if he grew a beard.

Got a long way to go for a compromise and only about 27 hours left.

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On the surface, these are reasonable requests but we don't know the inner workings among the 5.

1. "Discontinue blogging and editorializing." I didn't see the current commissioners complaining when he was doing this to get them elected. It is however recommended that he doesn't come to verbal fisticuffs with citizens like he did with the stormwater issue.

2) "Consult with your fellow commissioners before taking public positions". I didn't know we elected all 5 as one person. I sometimes expect opposing views. How else will we know their stances if they don't communicate with us? Oddo hasn't returned any of my emails. How do I know what he believes if he keeps it to himself until the vote is taken?

3) "Become a team leader." I know he copies them on emails. Steve needs to delegate more even if he thinks he can do a better job. They also need to step up and show some leadership.

4) "Stop publicly referring negatively to individuals." Ok, I agree its unbecoming of the chairman to do this, at times. But as a leader, you need to call people out. I like the fact that he was honest about the water problem and voiced an opinion. Never knew or heard Oddo with any opinion on the situation. He just wants to keep everything quiet.

Not trying to defend SB, but we need to look at both sides. Perhaps Mr. Oddo feels left out and is becoming sensitive.

I thought I voted for 5 individuals who each had their own opinions. I want to hear them before they vote, so I have a chance to communicate with them. Hopefully most are mature enough to vote what they feel is best for the county and if they are in the minority, move on with the next issue.

If Oddo becomes chair, I would suggest that every Friday, he lists the issues and compiles the opinion of each commissioner. He can then release this to the press as he sees fit.

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That was your last time voting for 5 people

We will only be voting for one from now on thanks to district voting and Brown is in my district, thankfully.

As a result we are going to have 5 very different individuals and it remains to be seen whether that is going to be helpful. I doubt it, but we shall see. I do think that the role of chairman will be even more important in the advent of district voting as a true leader will be needed to impose order and to achieve consensus.

With that in mind, whoever is chairman in 2014 will be the chairman that decides which incumbent has to be sacrificed so the NAACP candidate in the special election wins. And the 2014 chairman will be the first to help that district's candidate blend into the existing commission and doing everything possible to smooth the troubled waters of resentment that are likely to surface. And then each following year the districts will elect their special person to represent them and the chairman will be integrating them (so to speak) into the county commission.- one by one. Part of that will be helping them get the training they need and a through understanding of how the county conducts business.

With all that in mind, who would be the very best person to be the 2014 chairman? And no, you and I don't actually get a vote. I do hope those 2 or 3 commissioners who have control over this process have the most important part of Mr. Oddo's e-mail in mind when they vote. And that is the part he put in all caps and appropriately so --

IT’S NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU SAY AS HOW YOU SAY IT, AND NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU DO AS HOW YOU DO IT.

11 hours and counting.

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Mudcat the irony

Last time we had this clandestine chairman drama was over at the school board where Mr. Pressberg shot from appointee to chair in 0.2 seconds. Not soon after agenda item # 1 was FCBOE decision to not the fight district voting which is taking away your right to vote for all 5 memebers. Now, we have Oddo and Barlow in the shadows plotting who knows what.

Not defending Commissioner Brown but I agree with others we want transparency and communication whether we agree or disagree.

Take Care

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Mudkitty & tonight's selection of a chairman

My prediction:

Either McCarty or Ognio nominates Brown, the other one seconds. Barlow MAY nominate Oddo--no second. McCarty, Ognio & Brown all vote for Brown; at this point, the votes of Oddo & Barlow become irrelevant to the outcome. Game over.

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AHG: Exactly what I see happenning too

Don't think they'll be a change tonight.

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I think not. McCarty nominates Brown for sure

but with no second. Then Barlow nominates Oddo and Ognio seconds and a vote occurs. Hopefully Oddo realizes he must vote for himself and does.

No matter what, Ognio is the key player. Be interesting to see how many calls Ognio gets today. This is his first chance to do something meaningful. He'll get to wire every single thing at Pinewood if he helps oust Brown.

Or McCarty could slither out from under Brown's shadow and just keep quiet and force Brown to nominate himself. How embarrassing would that be if he didn't get a second?

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RWM and Mudcat

Did it ever cross your minds that someone else just might be pushing Oddo and even Barlow?

It is quite probable!!

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It has also crossed my mind

That SB has alter egos that post here.

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Alter Egos

Surely you don't think SB would post under another name do you?
...Cough, Cough (Johenry) Cough, Cough...

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Don't forget, there is another Oddo on the Fayetteville City Council, too. Add that in if one Oddo, or both Oddos (has a certain ring to it) decide, oh, maybe the newly annexed Fayetteville could use some public transportation. You know,with the elbow nudge of some powerful developers. With one as chair of BOC, think ARC or GDOT might pay attention? Sandy Creek Rd. comes right down off 74 from Tyrone thru to Fayetteville. The Tyrone Council was told by the Fayette Initiative they will be treated very well in this whole scenario coming up. Of course, that is a relative term. Stranger things have happened. No solutions to get PTC's traffic woes fixed have come about, so look for things to happen outside the city.

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All that you have mentioned has crossed my mind many times.

I have considered many, many scenarios.

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Dude, you care too much about the details. Chill out.

Take your dog for a walk. Breathe the fresh air outside - now that it won't freeze your lungs.

Brown is a huge egomaniac and only cares about himself - not the county.

Barlow is similar, but a light weight and a nutcase.

Oddo is a serious and a real person who is a true public servant.

This whole thing is only about who will be elected or selected county commission chair on Thursday.

5 choices, sort of.. Actually only 2. Brown and Oddo.

The so-called "vote" will be among the only 5 people who have the right to vote on this.

We don't get a vote - they do. Chill out and see what they do.

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Thank you Steve

"who is strong, but who also avoids controversy"
I'm sorry, but those who are strong can't avoid controversy...reason being they take a stand (which is what we want). Leaders HAVE to take a stand.

I thank God that Steve Brown stood up for us over the water controversy. I for one, don't like the idea that I was drinking filthy duck-do water. If this had gone on longer, someone could have gotten quite sick.

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Water/Illness

I have had numerous friends both young and old come down with bone infections, no injuries just something that came up. Youngest was 12 oldest 72. Many people have had severe respiratory disease this winter. How long is this crap going to be in our system with lingering consequences? Just a thought. BTW in the eastern part of the state, Columbia County they are having the same water issues, and yes it is not harmful yadayadayada

Wonder if ztony was a consultant
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/metro/2013-10-28/augusta-utilities-dep...

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The favor of an informed reply is always appreciated...

In the course of contacting the Commissioners on an issue near and dear to the community where I live, I have to say that at least Steve Brown actually replied with something of substance, stating that he and the other powers that be were aware of the situation, even going so far as to offer suggestions on ways to move forward. Oddo simply replied that he received the message, wasn't aware of the situation and would look into it and get back to me. That was in June. Haven't heard a word since. You may not like Mr. Brown, and to be certain, I'm not sure I'm a fan, but what I can and do appreciate as a taxpayer is that he doesn't hide behind an invisible barrier of political correctness that stops him from following up on constituent inquiries.

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As The World Turns

Gee, and just when I was thinking there would be no more political drama in Fayette County with Donnie Darko no longer in office.....

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Soap opera - lot's of potential here

It is very hard to top the mayor what with the $12,000 and the lawsuits. Brown is much smarter than Haddix (as is my cat's pet rat) and I think he will cobble together a winning vote for himself. If not, he'll probably quit and we can use our new Peachtree City district to choose his replacement. Deinhart, Plunkett, Jolly, Logsdon, Haddix, plenty of choices.

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Potential Fayette Co Commissioners

Gee, mudcat, looking at that list, are you saying the Fayette Co Board of Commissioners is where all failed PTC politicians go to die? If The Brown Clown does exit, not sure who I think would be a good replacement. But personally I'd rather see Cyndi return to the PTC City Council.

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Brown's Replacement

Maybe Pumpkin will sweet talk Haddix into running for the Peachtree City district seat! Can't wait for the fun to begin!

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Kumbaya

After Mr. Barlows apology and prayer this Thursday, Mr. Oddo is going to stand and request everyone sing Kumbaya. As a special treat, Mr. Oddo is flying in the sign language interpreter from Mr. Nelson Mandela's funeral.

I think the water issue is a lot more severe than anyone is letting on and Mr. Oddo is trying to stifle the issue. Is he scared that the county will be tied up in litigation?

MLC, I think you are right. By the tone of this letter, Mr. Oddo doesn't want to be chair. And that's fine. But if he takes the position, its out of martyrdom. And if he is selected, 3 months in, he will be kicking himself, due to the time it actually takes.

See, Mr. Oddo, when you're chairman, people actually expect you to respond to their emails. Not like the ones you ignored from me, when I asked questions and only Mr. Brown responded. Mr. Oddo, people expect you to have a position.

"IT’S NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU SAY AS HOW YOU SAY IT, AND NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU DO AS HOW YOU DO IT." Gosh, I didn't know he was so sensitive. Did Steve not compliment him when he asked if the color of his dicky went well with his jacket? Mr. Oddo would make a great kindergarten teacher. We will have another generation of kids winning trophies for coming in last place, so we don't hurt their feelings.

Guess I will be missing dinner Thursday night, so I can see the fireworks.

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Oddo for Chairman

Having experienced four years of Mr. Brown's leadership style relatively close to the source, I applaud Charles Oddo for what appears to be an appropriate response.

Blackmail? Extortion? How about restraint and professionalism?

I guess we'll just have to "agree to disagree" (Steve's euphemism for I can't win this argument, so we'll just move on).

Well done, Mr. Oddo! As a Fayette County resident, I'd be proud to have you as our Commission Chair, and I urge the fellow commissioners to select you Thursday evening!

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Well said.

Brown wouldn't know restraint and professionalism if it hit him upside the head.

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Gone with the Wind - a second remake in Fayette County

I really enjoyed the first local remake of Gone with the Wind that had Kim Learnard in the Scarlett role telling Rhett (played by Don Haddix) that he really needs to tone it down on the letter writing and blogging and using his official title to express personal opinions. I especially liked the way that first remake ended with Rhett cut off in mid-blog never to be heard from again. As if he were gone with the wind - get it? Of course we went through censure, lawsuits, slander, libel and alleged thievery before the end.

Now we have Charles Oddo in the Scarlett role telling Rhett to tone down the letter writing, blogging ......, etc. Exactly the same thing. Eerie. At least tall, strapping Steve Brown is much more believable in the role of Rhett, although his "Frankly my dear" speech should not have been published this early in the drama. That shows a certain arrogance and uncaring side of Rhett that frankly is much more effective if it emerges slowly and climaxes at the end. All in all, a good opening to what can be an exciting year-long process.

Next scene Thursday night. Hope they film it in the old courthouse in black and white. This will begin with the casting out of Rhett to be replaced by Scarlett who will morph into Ashley to serve as chairman. Rhett will be seen setting the building on fire (that's why we should use the old courthouse - we know it burns) during Barlow's tearful and prayerful apology. Just imagine the silver mane raised heavenward with flaming curtains behind him, theme music playing. Rhett/Brown skulking out al a Phantom of the Opera. Goose bumps.

We need Tony Parrot in there somewhere - a non-speaking part for sure. Maybe he can be one of the fireman who pours contaminated water on the fire. And we need a new Scarlett, Oddo/Ashley can't run the meetings and torment and supervise Rhett/Brown all year. How about Barry Babb (blond wig needed) taking over the Scarlett role? Wonder which one of his deputies will have the cojones to call him Scarlett today?

And once all that is settled the obvious choice to play Mr. 'O Hara (Scarlett's father) is Herb Frady. I know he has one of those Irish hats, although I have no idea what he could say or do that would add to the tension and entertainment.

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RWM this more like Monty Python's Julius Ceasar

Know I really do not want to pretend that Steve Brown has the accomplishments of Julius Ceasar but this rest of the cast fits. We have Cassius Barlow Brutus leading the assassins then we have Marc Oddo promising us he is not here to honor Steve Brown but to bury him as he measures the chairman's office for curtains. The better question is who is Octavian who winds up on top in the end.

This is all Greek tragedy stuff. As H&F has said Steve Brown is the only one who said something about our horribly mismanaged water system while Barlow fiddled hymms for the others to dance to. Is he perfect no, does he play well with others? sometimes. Is he a puppet of this group that seems to have a plan for Fayette? Not likely. Would the powers to be like Steve Brown minimized? Yes.

We have been hearing that Fredo Barlow has been rougue on his misson while Oddo was clueless while off on a trip to the old country. Now we see that this was afoot since Thanksgiving and all this came out when Commissioner Brown let the daylight in. All this time it was Hyman Oddo Roth who was his enemy.

Now I know what I am doing tonight Godfather marathon.

Take Care

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dont know nuthin...

...bout runnin no water systems...sorry, couldn't resist :)

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That was Butterfly McQueen - her real name

She herself and the part she played in GWTW was far too articulate for water boy. Good thoughts though. Appropriate and accurate.

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Were you able to find it last night?

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