Fayette school system eyes cutting 72 school employees

Superintendent Jeff Bearden. File photo.

With income dropping, numbers of students declining, budget deadlines approaching, and the easy expense cuts already made, the Fayette County Board of Education Monday night heard the first, but likely not the last, proposal intended to trim sufficient funds from the people side of the budget for next year.

Superintendent Jeff Bearden in past months has stated that a significant amount of needed reductions in expenses will come from personnel cuts.

First up was a proposal to reduce 72.5 school-based positions at a savings of $4 million.

Human Resources Director Reanee Ellis told board members that those numbers could change somewhat as staff worked through the reduction process.

The reduction of 72.5 positions is expected to generate approximately $4 million in savings for the 2012-2013 school year that begins July 1. Of that total, 61.5 positions would be certified teaching positions and 11 would be classified employees, Ellis said.

Bearden in previous meetings had stated that the school system needed to find approximately $10 million in savings in order to adopt a balanced budget in June. At his recommendation, school board members in December adopted a new 177-day school calendar that would save approximately $3.3 million next year.

It is noteworthy that, to some extent, the amount of money needed to balance the 2012-2013 budget is a moving target. Yet the bottom line is that the current budget has $170.23 million in revenues and $186.7 million in expenses. State law requires that tax levying entities adopt a balanced budget.

The current projection of a June 30 fund balance of about $13.9 million from various savings along with the current proposed staff reductions and going to a 177-day calendar will help significantly but may not solve the problem in the face of falling state and local revenues.

What also remains to be seen is whether the upcoming budget will have some amount of cushion in it to help buffer what could be a further decrease in the tax digest and additional decreases in enrollment that would result in even less state revenue.

A breakdown of the proposed reduction categories included 24.5 elementary school teachers, 23 middle school teachers, 14 high school teachers, 17.5 custodians and 1 clerical position.

A more detailed view showed that of the 24.5 positions in elementary schools, 19 of those would be regular education teachers, 3 would be special education teachers, 1.5 physical education teachers and 1 counseling position.

Middle school reductions included 19 regular education teachers and 4 special education teachers.

High school reductions included 13 regular education teachers and half a special education teacher.

The classified positions targeted for reduction included 10.5 elementary school custodians, 3.5 middle school custodians, 3.5 high school custodians, 4 elementary school parapros, and 1 high school clerical staff.

The proposed reduction in parapros would be accompanied by the addition of 9 specially-trained collaborative parapros that could function in a more integrated fashion and would eventually generate more state revenue, the board was told. So in terms of the total number of parapros there would be a net gain of 7.5 positions.

Ellis said the proposed reductions came after in-depth conversations by the allotment committee with the various school principals. Those conversations were give and take, Ellis said.

Additionally, Ellis said the school system is communicating with employees to get a handle on their plans for next year. She noted that the school system usually loses 250-275 employees each year through people retiring or moving. Communications with staff thus far has determined that 34 are expecting to retire with another 45 considering retirement.

Asked by board member Bob Todd if the reductions were based primarily on the school system’s decreasing student enrollment, both Ellis and Bearden said that was the case.

“It’s a direct reflection of the loss of student population,” Bearden said.

The school system lost more than 700 students this year compared to the previous year and has seen a decrease in enrollment that totals approximately 1,760 students since 2007. A study performed last year projected the loss of another 1,650 students between now and 2021.

The proposed reductions presented Monday night will be followed by additional considerations in March that are not centered only on instructional staff. Asked after the meeting about other cost-saving proposals, Bearden said he would be discussing the areas of transportation, school administration and county central office.

Unlike in most years, staff reductions have an enhanced significance since the school system is looking at ways to cut costs in the face of falling revenues from both local property taxes and state QBE (Quality Basic Education) dollars.

The school system receives approximately 53 percent of its income from local property tax revenues. Local revenues going to the school system are budgeted to total nearly $90 million this year.

But with the projection last week by the Fayette County Tax Assessor’s Office that the tax digest is anticipated to decrease by approximately 8 percent, that decline could mean a decrease of approximately $7.2 million for the coming school year.

Unless there is some form of unexpected infusion of revenue from the state, the school system will also see a decrease in that revenue category. The school system brings in approximately $4,000 per student being served. Though it takes an amount of time to experience the full impact, the loss of more than 700 students since last school year will eventually translate into nearly $3 million fewer dollars in state revenue.

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Cuts

There is an asst. superintendent that is way over 30 years and making over 110k. Do you think he might step aside and save at least two teaching positions? Don't hold your breath, it's going to get mighty ugly.

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Fayette County School System cutting 72 jobs

does the cuts include his female friend he brought with him to Fayette and made a position for her while cutting other employees?

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but hiring a bunch of para pros .....the county apparently will make some $ on this in the next school year.

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Fayette Math Program

Can anyone tell me why Fayette County is revamping their whole math program next year? Just listened to the pod cast & it is a huge undertaking. Does the lady that runs math for the county - Mrs. Ridgeway just get to switch the math program when she wants? I personally am happy the high school is doing this. I have never understood the math 1,2,3,4 plan.

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G8RGRL & The Love of Numbers!

G8RGRL, what math change do you speak of? I cannot bear to watch a podcast of school lingo--can you summarize please!

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No kidding on the lingo!! It is hard to follow completely what is happening by just listening as they used a slide show during the presentation at the meeting, which I could not see. Fayette currently teaches GPS - Georgia Performance Standards & is now going to implement Curriculum awareness on the common core using GPS. Apparently this August K-9 will switch over all at once. High school will phase in over next few years since the kids are in the math 1,2,3,4 program & they could not switch over immediately. They will be teaching the teachers via a on-line "Webinars" what to teach. Mrs. Ridgeway will also be meeting with all the teachers to let them know what they will now be teaching. They will also be teaching the teachers in person after CRCT testing is over - as it covers this year's math standards. She took up a lot of time at the meeting -wish the Citizen would report on these important issues.

I am wondering if the colleges in Georgia did not understand what exactly the kids were learning in math 1,2,3,4 in high school. I was told the kid's transcripts had a side note to explain to the colleges what exactly each math class covered. We will not be back to Algebra, Geometry, Trig etc....

You can listen to only that portion on the pod cast - you can fast forward & hear the math portion only - it is labeled in ITunes. I think the meetings are interesting. Also, Mr. Presberg got chewed out by a man in the comments from the public session! That didn't make the news either.

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G8trgrl and GPS

I can halfway understand GPS when I look at it on the state website, but what in the world is

'Curriculum awareness on the common core using GPS'

So, you are saying there will NOT be separate courses for Algebra, Geometry, Trig, etc.?

What was Chairman Pressberg getting chewed out for--his Satanic beliefs?

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Ninja & the math

I think without seeing the documents shown - that there will now BE separate courses for Algebra, Geom etc... unlike current math of Math 1, math 2, math 3, math 4 - which are all types thrown together that most counties have since dropped.

Chairman P WAS getting chewed for not revealing some" things " about himself before asking to be appointed to board.

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Thank goodness

I have no idea about why they are changing back to algebra, geometry...but thank goodness they are, Maybe it will make college applications a bit easier to figure out

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Ill-informed people abound

This batman character just makes up statistics, then changes his argument each time someone shows him real numbers. In the end, when outmatched, he resorts to immature name-calling by saying "libtards."

I suppose he doesn't know anyone with mentally handicapped children. Down Syndrome, autism...these things are real. Throwing around cruel words like "libtards" doesn't just insult liberals.

On the subject of free and reduced lunches: Most students aren't on them, as was proven when batman threw out that made-up statistic. The free and reduced lunch program stems back a long way to a time when the army was frustrated by the lack of proper nutrition of potential recruits in World War II. Kids coming from poverty were being denied entry into the military, so the federal government felt it might be a good idea to subsidize lunches.

You guys can blame anyone you want for today's economy, but it was a combination of many factors, one of which was a gross overestimate of growth in the county. We built what wasn't needed. I wouldn't be surprised if they are still planning the bypass that was never needed. I realize both projects are separate, but it's still the same mentality.

And blaming liberals won't cut it. The leadership in this county hasn't been liberal in decades (if ever). All the poor planning was done by people who call themselves conservatives.

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agree with most of what youre saying

agree with most of what youre saying, , but the gross overestimate and anticipatory building of schools wasnt just some incompetent buffoon making stuff up. it was based on steady rates of growth that the schools had seen for years. no one saw 2008 coming, and if you did, im mad at you for not letting me know.
the county is down around 700 kids from last years enrollment ( and close to 1200 from 2009), which considering the $3-4K we get from the state for each kid enrolled is over 2mil less this year than we had last year from that alone. I'm not sure but i think the property tax millage rate is already as high (or near to) as it can leagally go, but who wants higher taxes anyway.
when i started in this county in 2007 the school budget was 200 mil. now its around 170 mil or so. and it will get worse still. Schools tend to lag about 5 years behind in economic trends. but since payroll is %80 of the budget ( yes, that shocked me when i found out too), thats the first thing on the block when cuts have to be made.
Kids on free luch are a pretty small fraction of the county, but even so, the vast majority of that money comes from federal dollars. Not that that makes it much better mind you, just saying that even if we eliminatd it entirely, the effect it would have on a $170mil budget would be a drop in the bucket. Everyone really needs to pick on something else.
LIKE BUSSES! I have been out in the bus loops in the mornings and cant tell you how disgusted ive been to watch 20 different busses roll up with about 10 kids each on them. sure, one or two will be full, but the rest are mostly empty. Most of you dont know how close we came to adopting a 4day school week, just for the electricity and fuel savings. think about it. %20 right off the top! especially with diesel going up to $4/gal.
Kids have a right to public school, but not to busses. You dont see busses in NYC do you? We could save millions eliminating buss routes all together, or create a fuel surcharge for parents that still want to pay for bussing. Just throwing it out there. Its just so wasteful to run all these busses at %10 capacity. out of 1500 kids at my school, not more than a third ride the bus. but they have to plan for 1500. absurd. not to mention the 1000 kids a day that either drive or get dropped off by mommy. which is just wasteful in a whole other way.

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nope, no management positions being cut

Like G8 stated, no management positions being cut...and why is that? Will they look into those top heavy positions in March?? How about eliminating a few assistant principals? or coordinators at county office? I'm so sick of the politics as usual when it comes to our wonderful BOE and how the central office is immune to job cuts and pay cuts.

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THERE WILL BE NO SEVERANCE PACKAGES!

As a high school teacher in this county I can tell you for certain that that is just not going to happen. It didnt happen a few years ago when we had to lose some teachers, why would it now? Thats because none of us sign contracts entitling us to severance pay. If its not in your contract, believe me, no ones gonna give it to you out of the kindness of their heart. Duh. How do these rumors get started? Last time (a few years ago) most of the the teacher cuts were taken care of by attrition. At the end, no one had to be laid off. Its likely that the same thing will happen this time. In case lay-offs ARE needed, we have been assured that there will be a rating tool used to determine who has to go, so that if you are a new hire you are not neccessarily the first on the chopping block, and if you have been here forever you are not safe either. As far as retirements go, only people that are eligible for that anyway will take it, and that money comes out of the state retirement fund (one of the most solvent in the nation i might add) NOT from county school funds.
So, these people saying that retirement pay and severance pay will eat up any proposed savings do not know what they are talking about.

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School system is currently $4.27 million under budget

The Fayette County Board of Education at its Feb. 13 meeting heard a report on the current budget outlook presented by Comptroller Laura Brock. The January financial report showed that the school system is projecting a June 30 general fund balance of $13.856 million.

Brock said the school system is currently $4.27 million under budget with seven of the 12 months having been completed. Of that amount, $2.27 million comes from savings in salaries while $1.99 million represents savings in benefits.

In other words, the school system has spent less than it had expected to spend up to this point, which leaves it with more cash in the bank than projected

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Sorry folks for the double replies, its surely not coming from anything I am doing..

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And the answer is......

With income dropping, numbers of students declining its obvious that the influx of Clayton and Fulton's finest has made an impact. With the welfare majority taking over the county and not paying taxes there is no money to run the schools with. I say dispose of cafeteria staff completely. Schools are for education not a soup kitchen for the homeless and poor.With the majority of students on the free lunch program its hard to make a profit.Students should provide their own lunches and ban the Obama Lunch Nazis. NO CHIPS FOR U !!!

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Batman 23.6% does not make a majority
batman7732 wrote:

Schools are for education not a soup kitchen for the homeless and poor.With the majority of students on the free lunch program its hard to make a profit.Students should provide their own lunches and ban the Obama Lunch Nazis. NO CHIPS FOR U !!!

Is the general public really this ill-informed? 23.6% ( hardly a majority)of Fayette county students are ELIGIBLE for free or reduced lunch and not all of those participate in the program.

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okay... NOT REALLY

What was the magic number 10,15 or 20 years ago. IN 2003 THE FREE LUNCH WAS @2.9% AS OF 2010 ITS 29.4% @ FCHS ALONE !!! That's a HUGE increase in only 7 years. When tax dollars are not being paid into the system , the well will run dry eventually.Consolidate bus routes, less drivers needed.Consolidate classes and less teachers are needed. Cut out lunch rooms and let them bring lunch.
http://www.schooldigger.com/go/GA/schools/0213002168/school.aspx

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Free Lunches

Many do pay into the system, even if its reduced lunches.. Given the current unemployment ratem,I am surprised the figure isn't higher...

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Batman & School Cafeterias

Aren't you forgetting Breakfast? You'd be surprised how many free breakfasts are consumed.

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Batman & School Cafeterias

Aren't you forgetting Breakfast? You'd be surprised how many free breakfasts are consumed.

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Actually ... really

As of 2012 total ..... All..... System wide 23.6%
Please try and keep up with the times

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I think we all know what part of the county has the biggest problems. Please refer to the link and see for yourself.Look at individual schools, city by city. Scores, enrollment are down and free lunches are up. Viewing the county as a whole only hides the truth.

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As of 2012 total ..... All..... System wide 23.6%
Please try and keep up with the times
http://decal.ga.gov/documents/attachments/11FreeRedAllSchools.pdf
P.S school digger is accepted as reliable info as Wikipedia is accepted by any research organization as a reliable resource

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Denial

I love when Libtards are in denial. I guess your family and kids are riding the Obama train too. That would explain your defensive stance. At least admit the free lunch program is skyrocketing with the influx of low income families.

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Libtard love it fatman

Love it ..... You were the one that made the erroneous statement that the Majority of students received free or reduced lunch....dee dee dee...I point out your error therefore I'm a libtard.....lol I'm as far from liberal as you can get ....(ask the other liberals with whom I have posted opposing views on the citizen blogs)..I'm just informed and willing to deal in FACTS ... Just had to point out your lack of intelligence. Never said it wasn't growing just emphasis on your illiteracy

Ps nope no free or reduced or any gov assit you do know what they say about assuming .....

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Batman & Denial

What is interesting is to wait outside the school and see what kind of vehicles come to pick up the free lunch bunch! Oh yeah--they don't all ride "Big Yella" ya know!

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Sorry

I'm assuming that you're identifying the 'free lunch' kids by their skin color. Hope I'm wrong - but how are you identifying them as they get in their parents car?

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Wrongo! You don't see "skin color" anywhere in any of my posts--it's just the illogical place you jump to at every opportunity. How sad.

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I said I hoped I was wrong - please tell us how you are identifying the free lunch students. Thanks oh non-racist person of the blog. Why you have been blessed as others haven't - only seeing children and not their race. How do you know you see 'free lunch' kids getting into their parents car? Oh I already asked that question. Sorry.

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There goes that 'assuming' thing again. Hold on to your hat. There are white children and their families in Fayette County who are appreciative of the 'free lunch program'. There are many Fayette County families that are suffering from possible foreclosure because of lack of employment or the necessity to take a lower paying job because of the current economic situation. One qualifies for the lunch program based on family size and income - not skin color.

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And how would you know who does or doesn't

And just how would you assume to know who those children are that receive free and reduced..As they don't wear a sign.... Hmmm walkin a fine line aren't you

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Veritas & "Fine Line"

Nope, got reliable first hand info from a career 3rd grade teacher, who personally knew recipients and also had assigned duties in the pm to monitor student pickup. I don't do "rumor".

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You and your Golden source do know there a laws protecting the privacy of student info? (FERPA)..If your source is giving you said info one that's unethical two illegal ...... Grounds for immediate dismissal ...
1 down 71 to go....... Just sayin

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I dont have a dog in this fight

but FERPA only protects individual students from being named or identified. Percentages of students on free and reduced lunch are a matter of public record. I know since I just got done doing a masters thesis on block scheduling

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Oh heavens - I hope teacher training for you includes dealing with facts rather than emotions. I know you will see each and every student in your class as an individual and not as an infringing 'black' if their skin color happens to be different from the 'majority'.

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Davids Mom & Veritas

Congratulations! You have both reached the "Bacon Plateau" which means you are now a "non-entity" to me. I will neither read nor respond to your posts on this website. Have a nice life.

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DM, really? what the H are you talking about?

What has anything in your post got to do with FERPA, which was the sole subject in mine? I was dealing in facts, namely the fact that FERPA protects students statuses from being individually identified. Your comments about hoping i see students individually and not as infringing blacks is not only wildly off topic, but inapropriate and utterly classless. If other people on here are trying to make a connection between free and reduced lunch and race, go off on them. Dont lay that at my doorstep because you and i disagree on a completely different topic. You exhort me to "deal in facts" but engage me with straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks at every opportunity.

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Renault please read carefully

FERPA protects individual students from being named And or identified including their participation in free or reduced also. Now percentages of students participating you are correct public info but not who those individuals are. Please read as we were speaking of a teacher identifying those students that are receiving that service ... I hope your grad courses taught you to read in context.

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read between the lines
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FERPA protects individual students from being named And or identified including their participation in free or reduced also. Now percentages of students participating you are correct public info but not who those individuals are.

yeah. thats what I said. thanks for correcting me by repeating back the same thing i posted. apparently im not the only one who needs to read closer.
If AHG has a teacher source who both knows who is on free/reduced lunch and sees what cars they get into then they are free to pass their observations and opinions on to AHG and as long as individual students havent been named or pointed out, FERPA has not been violated. Thats all i was trying to point out. sorry if i was too subtle. Not used to having to beat people over the head with a brick to expain something that should be obvious.

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LOL.......As an elementary school teacher you should be..I was simply pointing out your useless post as you didn't bother to read or comprehend the previous discussions as we were referring to individuals and not percentiles. Since you saw FERPA mentioned and jumped at the chance to expound on your new Found knowledge without reading carefully ... Here are your crayons see if you can stay in the lines more than AHG
p.s.And to be an educator who wrote a masters thesis "just got done doing".

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Veritas, set me free!

err....actually a high school teacher. but in my defense not english! LOL. Im not the best typist and i tend to write blog posts the way people talk to each other. what?! Like the Queens going to read this or something? So gimmie a break on grammar. And just so you know, my first post was completely on point, which is what i pointed out in my second post. The only person refering to "individuals" identifying students in violation of FERPA was you. Something you seized ahold of and havent let go of yet, in spite of the fact that AHG already said that never happened. Whatever. Lets both of us let it go.
By the By, the thesis I "just got done doing" got an A-. I lost points for not completely following APA formatting. Like anybody cares about that crap! Ha!

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That's Right Renault314!

We would not want high school teachers of other subjects to be proficient in writing their native language! It would be confusing for the students if teachers other than English teachers showed English skills! Art teachers should stay out of multiplication and division as well!

Thank you for your dedication to larning!

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for the sake of friendly conversation

im going to assume that the hard time you are giving me out of the blue is just some good natured ribbing. Obviously if i can write a masters thesis i am proficient in writing formally in English. but as i explained earlier, i just dont bother with doing that for blog posts. Ideas are the point here, not the grammar. Thanks for completely focusing on the wrong part of the story though. (see I can good naturedly rib back!)
Seriously though, find me an English or art teacher in this county that can bust out the college level physics problems i throw up on the board every day and i might concede your cross-curricular point. if thats what it was.

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Renault314, You Are Certainly Right!

We would not want to spend time doing the most basic things correctly just any old time--only when it really matters! Like only using good English when writing a masters thesis or only using proper technique according to Canon Law when engaging in procreational activities with the spouse! I once knew a man that ate collards every day who had 14 kids!

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Renault314--And Proper Spelling

is a waste of time too! What does it matter if students spell it physics or fizziks?! As long as they have the equation and result right! Spelling never changed the meaning of anything scientific anyway! It could be decimeter or decameter--all the same right! Kep up the gud wark larning them thar younguns of ours good now, ya hear!

PS, I never drove a French car that was worth a bushel of collards!

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Sincere congratulations! Great achievement. Keep up the good work.

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OOOOO posting at 242 on school time...tsk,tsk,tsk just kidding ....unless your home on a protected day... In that case don't lose that doctors note...just poking fun...Lol....grammar pass granted ... We agree to disagree about your first post.. AHG did insinuate individuals but nither here nor there...I'm in Complete agreement on the APA issue..Since when and why did psychologist become the enlightened ones on formal writing format?

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renault314 & Between The Lines

You are 100% correct!

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Veritas & Student Identification

You've got a comprehension problem similar to DMom---just where have you seen where a teacher was identifying individual students--and to whom? You can't find where I ever said I knew who individual students were or that individuals were identified to anyone. Show me otherwise or retract if you're honest enough.

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AHG--No comprehension problem just dealing with an

Intellectually challenged individual trying to dig their foot out of their mouth
"What is interesting is to wait outside the school and see what kind of vehicles come to pick up the free lunch bunch! Oh yeah--they don't all ride "Big Yella" ya know!" quote you implying that you knew who the free and reduced crowd was provided by a "Golden" source.... Which in turn was from someone who obviously Is a gossipy teacher...get your crayons and try and stay in the lines this time sweetie....
So not to be rude but I'm tired if talking to you!

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Veritas & FERPA

Source retired pprior to implementation of FIRPA.

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Rusty source

Then your source is so far out of the loop and out dated that they have No clue as to how the system works or who is or is not
Free or reduced ... FERPA was signed into law in 1974

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I was wrong. Source retired in 2004.

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Wow!

Third grade teachers in Fayette County identify students economic situation to others. Parents should be pleased to hear that. I sincerely doubt your veracity on this one AHG - but I'm not surprised at your trying to escape the TRUTH!

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DMom & Selective Reading

You should really read complete posts and not just glean what you want to support your position. Do you understand words "NOT FAYETTE COUNTY"? And I suppose your husband never, no never, discussed his job with you,huh?

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Whatever. LOL I'm confused. Are you saying your reliable source is your wife? (But you don't remember when she retired?) I don't think any teacher or administrator would jeopardize their job by giving out information regarding the participants in the free lunch program. . . and I'm not the only one here who believes that. Leave it alone - before someone starts an investigation and a school loses their funds due to noncompliance,

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DMom & My Memory

I never said I didn't know when she retired--I said I was wrong about retirement & date of FERPA enactment. I also didn't say that info on individuals was passed to anyone--again you leap to conclusions to support your position. Now, you just go ahead and try to disprove what I just said. You'll have to invent some stuff because it isn't on here in hard copy!

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Nope, got reliable first hand info from a career 3rd grade teacher, who personally knew recipients and also had assigned duties in the pm to monitor student pickup. I don't do "rumor".

These words are yours. Please clarify that teacher was not pointing out individual students as they got on the bus. Was the teacher assuming that they all were 'free lunch' kids? Don't bother to answer. You're right and everyone else is wrong. So what's new? LOL

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Your reliable maybe not so reliable

Normally The Prinipal and cafeteria staff are the only people with that info under the current system.... Only in rare instances would a teacher have this info....Rumors abound among teachers ( they are know to be notorious gossips) as well as citizens.... (maybe your source is a rare instance)
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Veritas & "source"

Not Fayette County. Who do you think supervises applications? Of course teachers know. My source is golden!

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Not to belabor the point

But that is the Fayette county system ... And all public school systems procedure (teacher APPLICATION.. Principal / Cafeteria staff actual recipients.... as I said maybe yours is the rarity .

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Come out of the la la land of PTC. The free lunch program is skyrocketing throughout the country because of the UNEMPLOYMENT!! (Yes Batman - right here in Peachtree City) Enrollmemt is down - free lunch program is up. Hmmmmm.) We haven't become so callous as to not to want to feed our children while they are in school. Geeeez.

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DMOM & Free Meals

Applications for free or reduced meals are filled out but no one checks validity of info provided, ie you don't have to provide a tax return to prove income. It's just another handout for those (and I agree that there are some needy families out there), but also some moochers/cheaters too. I don't know the relative percentages.

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I know you have a lot of 'inside' information. I did a little research - and the National program has not changed that much since I administered it in a school with 3000 students. If you feel that no one checks the validity of the applications, you are wrong - and very few administrators would jeopardize their federal funding by knowingly approving invalid applications. Yes there are cheaters - just like there are those who seek loopholes in completing their income tax returns - but all Title I students who are identified in Fayette County do not necessarily qualify for the free lunch program. They may be getting additional help with their academics based on their test scores. We're just interested in your veracity in identifying them. (Don't give us any more information - or you'll be putting a career teacher in jeopardy.)

http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/

http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/governance/notices/iegs/iegs.htm

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Collards Are The Answer to School Budget Woes!

is to make the free lunch students eat collards everyday! Also, with enrollment down, can't we get rid of the rat and cat infested trailers littering the schoolyards in our fair county! The freed up space could be used for growing collards for the free lunch program! We should also look into replacing the expensive-to-maintain Bermuda grass on the sports fields with collards rather than expensive artificial turf! Not only will this provide more cushion for young knees and other joints, the torn leaves generated by trampling feet can be harvested for the free lunch program as well! Collards are a win-win for our school system! Excess can be sold at the farmers market!

Eat More Collards!

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Collards on school grounds

You joke Ninja, but when I was growing up in Acworth, GA (now there's a fine collard eating place if there ever was one) the principal of Acworth Elementary had his personal vegetable garden on the school grounds that was tended to by the school janitors. No, he didn't provide collards to feed the kids in the free lunch program, but he did occasionally give my mother (a second grade teacher) a mess of collards to take home when he was feeling magnanimous. He also had the cafeteria staff collect the food waste left over from lunch each day to be sold off as slop to a local hog farmer. I suspect that he was keeping the proceeds for himself rather than using it for any educational purpose, but that's the way things were done in Acworth in those days. Oh, the good ol' days...

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Lol ninja

Sounds like a plan to me!!! Maybe you should run for BOE

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Collards - the use of

Now that's thinking out of the box!!!

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Everyone except ninja guy

What is this dudes deal with collards and sex? hes mentioned collards or sex with collards on at least 5 different threads. I think he needs an intervention. I'll start. Dear Ninja guy, this letter is to tell you how your constantly talking about rubbing collards on your genitals has affected my life. It hasnt. You are an idiot. Sincerely, R
Who's going next?

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Dat's Right !!!

Let the Obama's furnish free lunch for everyone, they know exactly what to feed us. Deep fried chicken nuggets & fries instead of a turkey sandwich & chips. Oh and send the bill home for the single mom to pay.
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/childs-lunch-allegedly-taken-by-teacher-tol...

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Putting Teachers' Unions Ahead of Kids

Obama's new budget is 1,470 pages long. On page 1,318, Obama announces he will end funding for the DC "Opportunity Scholarship" program, which gives poor kids the option of going to a private school instead of being stuck in the government monopoly.

It's a popular program - 500 more kids applied last year than there was room for - and for good reason: A "gold-standard" Department of Education study found that kids who were randomly selected to get the scholarship ended up 3 months ahead of their peers in reading, were happier with their school, and had higher graduation rates. To get those results, the private schools spent less than half what government-run schools spent per student.

It should be no surprise that, when parents can choose, schools are forced to get better. But Obama's new budget kills the school choice program, while it gives an extra $36 million to DC's government-run schools.

Obama isn't concerned with education. He marches to the orders of the Teachers Unions. If government run schools are such a great thing, why doesn't he put his own children in them? Because he's a miserable hypocrite out to destroy America, that's why.

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School budget

The reason to delay the decision has to do with the severance package that the dumped employees will get.
The lucky 72 will get at least 2 years salary and benefits and then lucrative retirement.

In essence no true saving at all..

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Gene61 Once again assumptions from the general public are

NOT FACTUAL....The last budget crunch they RIF a number of teachers, para pros and custodial staff.... No severance....no benefits and what many forget no unemployment....all the while maintaining the central office and administration. I agree that they have no real intention of letting this effect any administration level employees[/quote]

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Assumptions

Assumptions are all we have until we the final argeements and budget. Bottom . sooner or later all local , state and the fed gov will better soon to operate within its means and stop spending money we don't have..

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Assumptions

Assumptions are all we have until we the final argeements and budget. Bottom . sooner or later all local , state and the fed gov will better soon to operate within its means and stop spending money we don't have..

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Isn't it typical that when faced with a budget shortfall government entities never propose cuts to their staffs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but when one makes the argument for better student to teacher ratios cutting teacher positions would be the last thing a competent school executive would consider.

I will admit that there may be a few teachers that don't quite measure up, but I'll bet the criteria for cuts do not and will not be performance based. Consider eliminating those staff positions that have little or no bearing on the quality of education that we in Fayette County have come to expect. We have great teachers as evidenced by our state and national standing, and for me looking to the classroom for cuts is simply a boneheaded idea.

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yAlL NEed to rEaD Mo BeTteR

Straight from the article.

'The proposed reductions presented Monday night will be followed by additional considerations in March that are not centered only on instructional staff. Asked after the meeting about other cost-saving proposals, Bearden said he would be discussing the areas of transportation, school administration and county central office.'

Eat More Collards!

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Why delay until march?

Please enlighten the public as to the logic behind the delay until March to include admin , transportation and central office personnel into the cuts? Why would the current proposal not be all inclusive ?

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Consider yourself enlightened, Truthman

The reason to delay the decision has to do with the severance package that the dumped employees will get.
The lucky 72 will get at least 2 years salary and benefits and then lucrative retirement.

BTW, the so-called cost savings from this move are simply something that will show up on a different line of the school systems budget - probably something they can blame on the previous administration.

When teachers and school buses are dumped, you will know they are serious. Don't hold your breath waiting for it.

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RW Morgan enlightenment

I appreciate your take but I don't quite agree. I believe they are serious about laying this on the backs of the teachers and staff all the while protecting the administrators and central office. The last budget crunch they RIF a number of teachers, para pros and custodial staff.... No severance....no benefits and what many forget no unemployment....all the while maintaining the central office and administration. I agree that they have no real intention of letting this effect any administration level employees

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Ninja- I love Collards

I love collards and cornbread. I also like Panama City beach. If you prefer Martha's Vineyard all I can say is "Delta is ready when you are!"

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Anybody with any sense at all loves greens..

Collards/turnip greens etc.....nothing better when they are prepared with care.

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Dr bearden/Dr Ellis

Beginning to see between the two they have just about enough brains to make One half a Moron. I think the teachers and staff should demand a face to face with these two to hear the justifications for the idiotic rational for the Highly selective cuts they want to implement .

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Fayette school system eyes cutting 72 school employees

Why no upper or middle management positions cut? Only cuts I really disagree with the " Special Needs " teachers..

Also in the new school 177-day calendar , does that include a later start to the schhol year? Wouldn't delaying the start of the new school year until after Labor day save money and fuel cost as well?

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it's the difference between government and private enterprise. In government productive people are always expendable. In the real world it is generally recognized that staff folks are the most expendable. It would probably be hard to find any school system that could not be improved by eliminating a certain number of central office jobs

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School cuts

Wow - not one position from "management" being cut....

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Wow - not one position from "management" being cut....

Nope not one. And if you read other parts of The Citizen you'll see that they seem to be targeting people like Bus Drivers. Why no articles on upper management with what they make with benefits? It's always teachers, para pros, bus drivers etc. I guess the plan is to target the weak and The Citizen is right in step with the BOE on this.

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