Mayor’s wife: ‘My turn’ for facts, perspectives missing from Page 1 story

I am Cathy Haddix and it is my turn. Time to give a lot of facts missing from the blogs and newspaper.

I had what I thought was a private conversation with Joey Grisham, the new development coordinator, at the opening of Fresh Market. As a private citizen it surprised me as to how noteworthy it has become.

A thank-you to Mike King, who claims to have overheard the conversation and who has targeted me in the The Citizen Blogs. Since King is a virulent enemy of my husband and all things Haddix, his next step is apparently me. Also to The Citizen who deemed this front page news. I hope my response is deemed front page as well.

I had some serious concerns regarding the views and direction Joey Grisham was going to take in Peachtree City.

After introducing myself I started the conversation with, “I hope your tenure in Peachtree City is short-lived.”

This is an attention getter. It worked. I said I had both read his statements in the paper and gotten feedback on conversations regarding his thoughts on Peachtree City.

Those being the village concept didn’t impress him, a downtown is important, big boxes are good and we need to build more retail and in addition to filling currently empty spaces. All avenues for revenue must be considered. ”All” here can have scary implications.

I then stated, as my opinion, that what we have currently is important to remain uniquely Peachtree City. The village concept is the heart of what we are. Many are against big boxes and having emphasis on retail when getting employers and jobs should be the focus.

We went over the former CCD property and I said what about something other than retail?

His annoyed response was, “Well, what would you put in there?”

I said “Medical, a college, vocational institute or offices. Something on that order.”

He gave no answer.

The other topic we talked about was the special use permit. He wants it left alone for flexibility.

I said having structured ordinances makes it more clear for whoever, builders and developers, to understand where things stand rather than dealing with personal negotiations. Why give up what would already be required should be the city stance.

I referred him to the Lowe’s case we lost. The judge ruled against us because of it being personal opinion.

Then I said if I mischaracterized anything I had heard or read I would apologize.

The conversation ended abruptly when Don, who had been talking to Fresh Market executives, came over to get Grisham for inclusion in that conversation.

I would have wanted his take as to what was said prior regarding his direction and desires for Peachtree City. If in keeping with what makes us different — then good luck with the job.

A city staff position of economic development coordinator at a salary and budget of over $150,000 was mandated by [City] Council Members Fleisch, Learnard and Imker. During council meetings they tasked Grisham to focus on retail. All industry and business would come through the Fayette County Development Authority.

This means we have no advocate or authority in Peachtree City seeking good-paying jobs.

This makes no sense nor is it rocket science. There are issues of businesses and companies that lead to good-paying jobs, employees, home buyers and customers for retail. Retail is important but how well will it work without the rest?

People who know me are quite aware that I am blunt. Nothing is worse than finishing a conversation and not actually remembering what was said or the outcome.

As far as Joey Grisham being taken aback, I say if you cannot handle a conversation of give and take with a citizen, how can you deal with your job?

I will not be intimidated by Mike King, The Citizen or anyone else. I am not in political office and have not surrendered my First Amendment right of free speech.

Don has never intimated through any words or channeled through me that Grisham should be terminated. How Don operates in office is left to him. I am mad that even has to be stated.

There is a focus on a positive outcome for Grisham in his job. The council will wait to see his progress.

As far as Imker being disappointed with me I am disappointed that he has no regard for his campaign promises. That is the measure of an individual — his word.

Cathy Haddix

Peachtree City, Ga.

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A reminder of our terms of service: re-read them

Some registered users — including ones who use their real names — seem to have let the passions of the moment overcome their civilized judgment and have temporarily forgotten about our terms of service regarding calling people really bad names.

They have been banned. Maybe a little time out for adults will increase their sense of civility — at the very least, on this site.

Keep it civil, folks.

The editor, acting as hall monitor.

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Deep Hole/Rude Behavior

When you find yourself in a deep deep deep hole.......STOP DIGGING. Most of us would have forgotten about this incredibly rude behavior if you would stop reminding us. Stop trying to defend this.

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♫ In the air toniiiiight....♫♫

My oh my, the misogyny in this thread tonight is as thick as the pollen on the ground.

Opinionated women are skeery.

Get thee to the kitchen, Cathy Haddix!

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Right, that's what it is...

Nothing about having any social skills or just treating someone with respect. Nothing at all.

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Not scary, just off-limits

Guys(or at least real men and not some semblance of Allen Alda) don't greet each other in public like this BS because there can be repercussions to running off at the mouth like a fist in the face or other unpleasantness.

Some women exploit the fact that they can get away with saying about anything as Cathy Haddix so "proudly" did to some dumbfounded city employee who was out shopping and gets lambasted by the "Mayor's wife" who happens to hold 100% the same political views as her elected hubby and whose viewpoints are seemingly identical to Don's. Then, when the city employee says "he's taken aback" by this, said loudmouth has another fit over it.

The Haddix's are people with extremely thin-skin who cannot tolerate disagreement at all and see everyone who disagrees with their opinion as "the enemy." They both lack anything resembling common sense as Don as basically buried himself here over and over and done more harm than good and now his wife has to go running off at the mouth the same way. They are totally CLUELESS and have illustrated why PTC can do a whole hell of a lot better than this. WTB? You bet.

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Greetings Nukky! I hope you die a slow and painful death with festering boils, and soon!

Now that you have been properly greeted Haddix style and I have gotten your attention, let's turn to the subject at hand.

I have been thinking about this different set of rules between the sexes for running off at the mouth thing for a while now, so your comment grabbed my attention.

You are correct in that men do not address each other in such a manner due to the possibility of a punch to the face or other such repercussions.

Now, why is that? In boy kid society, Mrs. Chief Haddix's comment at the supermarket was akin to 'I hope you strike out' or 'I hope the coach benches you for the rest of the season' or the catch-all 'you suck.' Most of the time, someone saying these sorts of things would meet with physical violence, or at least start a long-running feud.

Now, in my experience, girls are no nicer than boys, but they don't get punched in the face by their peers as much as do boys for shooting off their mouths, so we learn to curb our tongues for fear of a black eye or busted nose, and this way of thinking continues on through adulthood.

This is why God created anonymous blogging, so we can harangue each other without fear of retribution, except by Mr. Cal!

Despite my many years on earth, I am still amazed that many of our estrogen-fueled carbon units feel it is their right to say whatever they want whenever they want, without thinking that the other person may retaliate.

This is why I am for making females up to the age of 65 subject to the draft. With the US now involved on four battlefronts, if you include Korea, conscription seems the next step.

There is no better place than the military to teach people, even older female ones like Mrs. Chief Haddix, to pipe down or suffer the consequences.

Swift Death To Female Exclusion for Forced Military Service

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Not me. I'm not going anywhere

You can draft all the females you want - I can even give you a list of several that would rather be male. But not me. I don't do early AM, I have tennis lessons every Tuesday and need to watch Oprah at 4. It is just not convenient right now.

Guys have all the advantages already - better pay, more promotions, they actually get better-looking as they age and don't have the monthlies. Let them fight our wars.

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Love the greeting...

I too hope you die sucking a rotten orange.

Good points about getting punched on the play ground.

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NUK: Food Market conversations?

There are spies everywhere, but what one must do in public conversation is to not care who hears what. I think this is what happened.

I mean Boehner can one day say President Obama ought to have bombed Libya two weeks ago, and then when the President does bomb Libya after all nations interested had time to consider joining the "coalition," Bush's title, then Boehner says why on earth did we bomb Libya--I demand a full explanation and a reason why you shouldn't be impeached!

Boehner didn't even cry when he said that!

Then, the conserves continue to say, "why weren't we notified?" The leaders were consulted and a letter written to them about Libya, but what they wanted was a public questioning, an inquisition, so as to punish the president for being late!

No immediate notification is required anyway--sometimes the President must act without permission for a given peroiod of time.
Congress hasn't declared war for Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc., ever anyway.

Heck this war is so insignificant, I think we need to immediately discuss Syria--now there is a little more skill involved.

What are we getting out of Iraq for our losses? How about Afghanistan? Libya?

What we need is a decent war to divert our attention away from the crooks here.

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Bacon - I agree

they should run for office, couldn't be any "skeeryer" than some of dem men folk we already have in office.

Don't you thinK?

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There is a time and place for everything.

There is a time and place for everything. Good manners are appreciated far more than crude tactics. Why is the Mayor's wife practicing politics? If she so interested perhaps she should get more involved in process other than being the wife of someone whom is involved . All she accomplished was making herself look like a high school girl with a point to prove. Mrs. Haddix if you don't want people to over hear your conversations perhaps you should consider your surroundings.

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LEAVE IT ALONE

O my god cathy why didn't you just leave it alone.

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I hope Mr. Haddix's tenure in PTC is short-lived...

Sounds real classy doesn't it Mrs. Haddix? I can't imagine walking up to someone I have never met and saying that. You're free to say it, but don't get upset when local folks see it for what it was. Crass and uncalled for. Bless your heart.

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How About This One

Mrs. Chief Haddix, I hope your husband's life insurance policy pays off soon! I always start off my conversations in supermarkets this way as an attention getter...people love it!!!

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Mrs. Haddix

Hey, it's all OK because people who know her agree that she is "quite blunt." That means it's acceptable to at least someone to have no social skills or class....it's just being blunt!

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EDITED & BANNED

I equate "being blunt" that Mrs. Haddix claims to be to mean "EDITED & BANNED for violation of terms of use". But that's just the way I am. Folks know it, so it's OK. :)

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Way to go spy

Good comment. I love a little humor now and then, Good old pumpkin is just to serious, Life is not serious. Most of the time its a joke

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O MY GOD THAT IS JUST WRONG

and the comment is totally uncalled for. I hope they knock you off this discussion board as you certainly did not share any type objective commnet. I bet if you have kids they are one of the ones who laid out of school during the make up days, it is obvious from this comment the training is limited at best.

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An Attention Getter..

That's all it was. It's how I roll. And it's only my opinion, not my Wife's.

Oh and since my Son is in College right now, you could send donations of $$$. Thanks for caring.

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What's with you and this

What's with you and this school thing? Get over it!

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EDITED & BANNED

Now Pumpkin, stating an accepted reality (that being a likely resemblance to someone being a rude **** EDITED & BANNED for violation of terms of service) are you saying that should anyone that disregards political correctness and states the obvious, they should be barred?

BTW, what does someone's kids have to do with anything?

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EDITED & BANNED

One can be rude without being a ****EDITED & BANNED or a sorry-no-good-drifter!

As to you being barred from here--welcome to the fold---many times! (you are on the right side however). Being in the middle is the problem!

As to kids being important in politics, and even on here, they will be used against you if it seems necessary!

The Reagans had to abandon theirs in order to avoid them.
Carter had a rough time also. (even Brothers). (Even Grandmothers).

Lyndon Johnson had an alcoholic brother in the White House that made the news.

Of Course the Bushes had Neal (and JEB's wife) and the wild kids with illegal ids.
George was elected twice in spite of avoiding combat in the Guard, (couldn't do that now), being an alcoholic and a doper didn't hurt him though.

Even George's wife was called to attention with an at fault car death!

Jack Kennedy got hisself wounded and made a hero to furnish cover for his fortune. Don't mention Teddy.

That is enough to tell you it really doesn't matter unless you threaten a reporter for criticizing your daughter's singing, as did Truman. He did shed the Pendergast label too.

We appear to like these kind (Barnes, Perdue, Deal).

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pumpkin

This is funny since you feel you can call every ones children brats. Maybe just a little bit of a double standard here. Obviously your parents were a little short on training too.

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EDITED & BANNED

Is it true that 'rude ****EDITED & BANNED' tend to gravitate towards men with reduced cognitive skills and Napoleonic complexes?

If so, perhaps the CDC would wish to do a case study here in Peachtree City.

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I know of a few Mike..

You may be on to something.

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No, I think you might have it wrong on who writes what. Our Dandy Don (Chief, I like that one) can not string three coherant sentences together. For evidence, just review the video from Councli meetings and the DVD recording of his debates - the "Sunshine Policy" at McIntosh was the best one. I have never seen someone stumble/jumble so many thoughts together and come out with....nothing. Frankly, I am not sure who we have acting as the mayor. Whatever the case, the use of decorum would be most inappropriate from the wife of the mayor. And as always, Dandy Don is caught in yet another one. Time to RECALL!

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No, I think you might have it wrong on who writes what. Our Dandy Don (Chief, I like that one) can not string three coherant sentences together. For evidence, just review the video from Councli meetings and the DVD recording of his debates - the "Sunshine Policy" at McIntosh was the best one. Frankly, I am not sure who we have acting as the mayor. Whatever the case, the use of decorum would be most inappropriate from the wife of the mayor. And as always, Dandy Don is caught in yet another one.

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Let me 'splain something to you, Lucy

Mr. Grisham's focus on attracting retail in a not growing town with overbuilt retail in the middle of a recession is not workable and his tenure may indeed be short, but it really is not his fault. That may be what you so unartfully may have been saying. You may even know that economic growth comes from new jobs, which are created by industrial recruitment - meaning relocating companies like Sany (thank you Harold), Cooper Lighting, Panasonic, etc. The low-paying part-time jobs that the retail tenants offer do not help the city's tax base and the few high-paying jobs are not really "created" jobs anyway. They are simply shifting jobs - like the chef at Maxwell's is now the chef at Frank's. No new house sales, no new families spending money at Kroger.

Anyhow, industrial growth in PTC is at a disadvantage for 2 reasons, the first is the recession and the job losses that are a bi-product of it along with reduced corporate sales meaning no need to expand. Nothing we can do about that.

That leaves us looking for companies willing to relocate - usually south, usually non-union, almost always seeking tax breaks. That leads to the second reason and that is PTC's reputation that we are anti-business. Starting with Brown and all his antics designed to get publicity for himself that alienated scores of people in government all the way to the Governor's Department of Industry and Trade, PTC's reputation began a long slide downhill. Logsdon didn't do much to halt that slide, the Sany thing just happened on his watch. Now we have a mayor and council who have created an business recruitment model that has never been seen before, one that is focused on the wrong business sector and one that is not really funded. Say what you will about this mess (and I'm sure we will hear about how the 3-2 votes are so very unfair), but the issue is lack of effective leadership in proposing something that will actually work.

I am so tired of hearing how we can't do this and can't do that - sometimes the direct opposite of the city attorney says. Maybe if your husband got off his high horse (you too) and focused on his oath of office and got some professional help (meaning industrial recruitment) you all would be happier.

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RWM & Chefs

I thought the Chef at Maxwell's went to the new Village Cafe--am I wrong?

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No, actually I am wrong - first time ever

He did go to Village Cafe. But same difference. No new jobs created in PTC.

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Reputation

PTC certainly has pushed much development in the area outside their border due to unreasonable delays and impractical demands.

The tail cannot wag the dog.

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EDITED & BANNED Mrs Haddix=Don is a LIAR!

Thank you for posting the truth in your letter.

What you have done has now confirmed that your husband, our Mayor, Mr. Haddix, openly LIED to everyone on this blog when asked if you said anything to Mr. Grisham.

Yes, he L-I-E-D. Unfortunately you can not blame Mike King or The Citizen for this. Mr. Haddix LIED all by himself.

Regarding your rock throwing at Mr. Imker, whereby you stated the importance of keeping "your word" Well, right now Mr. Haddix's word to the citizens of Peachtree City is ****EDITED & BANNED for violation of terms of service because he LIED.

Mr. Haddix, people have told you time and time again to stop posting and in particular to stop throwing rocks at your fellow council members. You didn't listen and in the end, you have self destructed because of your need to always have the last word and always be right.

No one is to blame except yourself. You are responsible for your own mis-behavior here.

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Ms. Mayor

I really like and sympathize with the "..not in political office and have not surrendered my First Amendment right of free speech" argument.

You should be able to express your views howsoever without ramifications affecting family members.

I know exactly how you feel!

It won't work, but good luck with it.

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I think both the Mr. and the Mrs.

have done a fine job of expressing their views. As you will see soon enough, it will more than likely lead to a loss of 18K per year in revenue by at least one of them.

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JeffC: No ramifications?

When you approach someone like a jackass and then say later the exact same views your elected husband happens to have said over and over here, including personal attacks on someone like Imker or King, how are there not going to be "ramifactions" and why shouldn't there be?

Sometimes the only restraint on free speech and opinions are the shame of having that same free speech exposed to everyone else and that is a good thing, IMHO.

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Mrs Mayor - WOW!

I posted on another article about this subject that I felt that the Mayor was being blindsided. But now I'm starting to see this in a different light. I guess my thoughts would be this.

1. Why didn't you post this before your husband tried to lead us to believe that you didn't make that comment?

2. Why would you start a conversation in this manner with anyone? (And remember you are the Mayors wife you are not just some citizen expressing your views)

3. You say this was an attention getter and it worked? So you're happy with the results?

4. You may not be in political office as you state, but your husband is and the 2 of you will always be connected by that marriage to the point of you being an asset or determinate to his career. Statements like this will always appear to be you using your husbands power to get what you a non-elected citizen with first amendment rights wants above the rest of us citizens with no one in office to pull strings for us.

I do think you guys are in need of a public relations person.

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Haddix New Low - Using Wife

I didn't think it was possible to go much lower, but using your wife's name now? Really?

Thank you for keeping this story alive Don. This is so obviously Don writing this letter it's once again embarrassing. Notice the same usage of doublespeak, innuendo and almost exactly the same words used by Don in other blogs. The exact same agenda is here except this time Don is using his wife to parrot it. You have been unveiled again Don. What a disgrace to yourself and the city of Peachtree City. You ALWAYS to have the last word and you are NEVER wrong - pure Don. I wish I was that perfect.

Thank you Don, for this time in your other blog you managed to identify your next lap dog, Mr. David Conner of the Development Authority. When he runs we'll all know your agenda includes him being your third bark vote (Don, Doug, David) – The three Ds. Sorry Mr. Connor, cat's out of the bag by your mentor. I pity anyone who thinks of Haddix as a mentor. Mr. Connor, you do realize of course that Haddix (now both of them) are so despised at city hall you will be well advised to not be seen with him.

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they seem to agree on all of Don's recent talking points 100%

"Cathy Haddix' hits every single talking point of Don Haddix of the past couple of months that he has posted here recently for all to see:

Criticizes Imker and Mike King.
Accuses Imker of not being a man of his word
Criticizes Council for outvoting Don 3-2 on the Econ Devel Dir Grisham's position as a city employee instead of a DAPC employee
Criticizes Council directing Grisham's focus to be on retail
Criticizes Council for voting against Don and voting for Grisham's recommendation of retaining flexibility in the special use plan.
Criticizes The Citizen's coverage of this "private conversation"
Talks about the Lowe's ruling being due to "personal opinion," Don's exact words a couple of weeks ago.

Hmmmmm........I think I agree with you PTClurker. Seems too identical, even for a husband/wife. Some or most of this obviously came straight from Don's mouth.

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Private Conversation?

You were at very crowded public place during a very busy public event.

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Jaw-dropping stupid

A conversation with Mr. Grisham went this way ------

We went over the former CCD property and I said what about something other than retail?
His annoyed response was, “Well, what would you put in there?”
I said “Medical, a college, vocational institute or offices. Something on that order."
He gave no answer.

Wow. The mayor's wife believes that O&I belongs on a parcel zoned for Commercial. Can we all say "Property Rights?" Have we ever heard of Doug Dillard?

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Well a least she is not the mayor

Because a visit from Doug Dillard is never a good thing.

Office space. Good call Miss Cathy.

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Private Conversation?

It appears that your wishes for the new employee have not been taken out of context!
You really do not wish him to continue what you said were his ambitions for PTC.
I must also say that the "village concept" for PTC hasn't shown me in 27 years any advantages. Possibly more centralized traffic would occur if it had centralized organization.

Since the new employee is limited to retail additions, It would seem that his chances of success in a recession are somewhat slim. Due mainly because we already have too much retail!

I took this hire in the first place as a method of shifting blame from the city government to an individual when all went wrong! Just as the city does not want responsibility for youth activities other than field games, they also don't want the hard work of promotion to increase city income--this can all be measured and blame placed, whereas meaningless, everyday paper work can not.

Maybe each "village" needs an Airport. They all already have a nail salon, a liquor store, and three drugstores!

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Oh my. This is really sad.

I was hoping something good could come of this Balls-up (as the British are fond of saying), but it appears not. I respect Mrs. Haddix's right to free speech, but what we see here is a silly pathetic cover up move made by a not-so-skilled PR person. And if they consulted a PR professional, he/she/it should be fired and banished from the reservation. The correct advice would be to let it alone and it will be forgotten.

This is the kind of stuff I was talking about in an earlier post today - embarrassing PTC in these blogs helps no one at all - especially if the world is watching/reading/monitoring.

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Digging deep holes runs in the Haddix family

Actually, I think you have far surpassed Don in "lack of class" or "decency" and you should have just quit before giving people even MORE ammunition to use against your husband/Mayor, who needs political help and not enemies. Of course, that assumes logical reasoning on your part and I see zero evidence of it in this diatribe against a city employee. No class whatsoever.

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My Question Is

why was Mrs. Chief interrogating this poor fellow at the Fresh Market grand opening? When I went to Fresh Market, not the grand opening mind you, I was too wowed by the selection of previously unseen stuff in PTC and the happy throngs of people waltzing among the aisles to think about verbally body slamming some unsuspecting soul about what to put on the former CCD site, whatever that may be.

And, how could have this been a private conversation? It was in a public place! Furthermore, she must have been talking loud for Mike King to hear her, as I imagine his ears are not what they used to be due to all that helo noise, not to mention the explosive sounds from all those forays out in the woods to make sure his arsenal of properly licensed automatic weapons is in good working order.

Swift Death to Aggressive Accosting of City Employees in Newly Opened Supermarkets!

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Poor Fellow!

Poor Fellow? I hardly think so. In his business he is required to listen to criticism! He should be used to it by now.
Are you suggesting that we hire him a PR person?

Could it be that the new employee wasn't asked whether or not he preferred working with a village concept or not before hire? It seems Mrs. Mayor is in favor of the concept.
Why would we want a man in that job who didn't say he didn't like such a concept if that is what he thought?

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I am in favor of this type of people in government--Mayor Haddix!

I despise the Public Relations type, who sole job is to smooth over, cover up, and say nothing accurately and fully. PTC has one although they don't help the Mayor any, nor harm him!

Don't you get tired of those clowns who come out in Washington, D. C., to explain just what the President or Secretary of State or Defense really meant?

Heck, if the Mayor or his wife think changes are needed, they have a perfect right to say so. The Mayor is our elected representative whether we voted for Mayor or not. There is a procedure for removal if necessary. There is a procedure for removal of an unsatisfactory employee, also. That doesn't preclude opinions beforehand.
Like Teddy Roosevelt, maybe Haddix carries a big stick.

I don't recall Nancy Reagan, Rosalynn Carter, Hillary Clinton, or Elanor Roosevelt, ever keeping their mouth shut.

One politician calling another a "liar," is very similar to Fatty Arbucle calling Oliver fat!

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