Judge’s sex talk swept under the robe?

Chief Judge English fails to act on complaint

A Peachtree City attorney Friday said Chief Superior Court Judge Paschal A. English Jr. failed to intervene when she informed him in fall 2008 of sexually inappropriate comments made to her by Superior Court Judge Johnnie L. Caldwell in 2007 and 2008.

Susan M. Brown said English told her: “You just have to go talk to Judge Caldwell yourself.”

It was those very risque comments from Caldwell that led to his resignation from the bench Monday, along with a handwritten promise “never to seek or hold judicial office again.” That promise came following a formal investigation launched by the Georgia Judicial Qualifications Commission, though Brown says she never filed a complaint with the JQC.

In fact, a “transfer order” — signed by Caldwell — reassigning the case from Caldwell to English was filed with the court clerk’s office Aug. 12, 2009, eight months before the JQC action resulting in Caldwell’s forced resignation. In this instance, a junior judge signed the order that reassigned a contentious case to the senior judge.

Whether the allegations were reported as soon as English found about them to the JQC, which has the power to discipline or remove judges, is unknown to the public since most of the JQC’s activities are shielded from disclosure by the Georgia Constitution.

English himself, in an interview with The Citizen Tuesday, said he had no knowledge of the reason for the JQC investigator’s visit to the circuit and had no information about anything Caldwell may have done to warrant his resignation. “I can’t comment because I don’t know anything,” Chief Judge English told The Citizen Tuesday. “I’ve heard probably about 50 different rumors.”

English was unavailable for comment before press time Friday afternoon.

Brown said Friday that she never pursued any investigation into Caldwell’s sexually-charged comments “because I liked him as a judge.”

“I did not want Judge Caldwell removed,” Brown said. “I just wanted it to stop.”

The risque comments from Caldwell that Brown talked about on the record occurred outside the courtroom setting at a tailgate function for a football game, Brown said.

The comment in 2007 was directed at Brown but the one in 2008 was a comment about Brown that Caldwell directed at two of Brown’s clients, she said. In a TV interview this week, Caldwell admitted to making inappropriate comments to female attorneys.

Caldwell’s sexually-charged comments surfaced earlier this month as part of a contentious divorce case in which Susan Brown represents the wife, Janet Lee Crook of Peachtree City. Caldwell was the initial presiding judge in the case, and he ruled on custody and alimony issues before the case was reassigned to English in the fall of 2009.

The case ended up in the court of Superior Court Judge Christopher C. Edwards this February.

While some may view Judge English as protecting Judge Caldwell by failing to intervene after being told of Caldwell’s off-color comments, Judge Edwards offered no such protection.

Judge Edwards brought Caldwell’s comments about Brown to light during a pretrial hearing in the Crook divorce case, according to a transcript of hearings in the Crook divorce case this month.

Judge Edwards learned of Caldwell’s ribald comments in a post-hearing visit Brown paid to Edwards’ chambers. Brown said she wanted to explain a comment she made about the case being handled unfairly because she wanted Edwards to understand the comments weren’t aimed at him.

In a very short time frame, Edwards called an emergency meeting of all parties in the case to make sure all were aware of Caldwell’s potentially prejudicial comments and the possibility they might have had an affect on the previous rulings in the case, according to the transcript.

Because Caldwell is a fellow jurist, Judge Edwards told the attorneys that he would have to recuse himself from the case unless a waiver was entered from all parties saying they would not appeal any of the previous judges’ rulings on the case, according to a hearing transcript.

The transcript also showed that Edwards was concerned to such a point about the risque comments attributed to Caldwell that he wondered whether Caldwell’s previous orders in the case were determined appropriately.

“If those orders might have been something that was suggested were improper in some kind of way, then I have absolutely no business enforcing them until it was determined that they were proper orders,” Edwards said according to the transcript.

Edwards took pains to avoid mentioning the detailed comments in court, instead calling a recess in the hearing so Brown could share the information with all attorneys in the case.

In light of the new information about Caldwell, Mrs. Crook was allowed to seek counsel of another attorney on the chance that she wasn’t made fully aware of the extent of Caldwell’s inappropriate remarks. It was that new attorney, Gary S. Freed of Atlanta, who filed the initial motion April 19 asking Edwards to be recused from the case, a full week after Edwards teetered on recusing himself to begin with.

Edwards at the April 12 hearing declined to recuse himself on the basis that it would further slow the trial, as it would have then been assigned to an out-of-circuit judge, according to the transcript of the hearing.

Another factor swaying Edwards to stay on the case was the well-being of the Crook children. Their guardian ad litem, Jack Overman, reminded Edwards that any significant delay in the trial was not in the children’s best interests.

All three remaining Fayette Superior Court judges have entered orders recusing themselves from the case, including Judge Edwards. Chief Judge English was in charge of the case between Aug. 12, 2009 and Feb. 8, 2010, at which point he assigned the case to Edwards.

Superior Court Judge Tommy Hankinson never presided over the case, though it once was scheduled to appear on his jury trial calendar prior to the case being continued.

In fact, the number of continuances in the case has become a sticking point for Gregory Crook’s attorney, Alan Connell. In the April 12 hearing before Judge Edwards, Connell vigorously objected to a proposed one-week continuance in the case.

Connell noted the case had been continued on five separate occasions, all at the request of Mrs. Crook’s attorneys.

“This case is being held hostage,” Connell said.

English’s lack of action may well be a violation of a state judicial canon that requires judges to “take appropriate action” when they “receive information indicating a substantial likelihood that another judge” committed a violation of the Code of Judicial Conduct.

Judges who have “actual knowledge” that another judge has committed a violation of the judicial code which questions the judge’s fitness for office “shall inform the appropriate authority,” the Judicial Conduct Code states.

Yet Judge Edwards apparently feels the same way, noting specifically in the April 2 transcript that not only does he lack “actual knowledge” but he also couldn’t find “a substantial likelihood” of a judicial violation.

Edwards indicated Brown’s explanation of Caldwell’s inappropriate comments “is, in essence, a report.”

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English & Connell Thomaston Connection

Paschal English (born March 5, 1944 in Birmingham) is a Superior Court Judge in the Griffin Judicial Circuit in Georgia. In 2002, he was a contestant on CBS' Survivor: Marquesas.

English's family moved to Atlanta, Georgia when he was 2. A graduate of University of Georgia, English was a member of the United States Air Force from 1969-1973, serving in Southeast Asia from 1971-1972. After leaving the Air Force as a Captain, he joined the Georgia Air National Guard where he retired in 1998 as a Colonel. Prior to his appointment in 1987 as a Superior Court Judge, English served as Chief Assistant District Attorney for 12 years.

On Survivor, English made it to the final four for his season. Due to a tie, he became the only contestant in the history of the show to be eliminated without having a single vote cast against him. He and two other contestants had to pick stones out of a bag, and he picked the "purple stone of death".

English lives in Thomaston, Georgia with his wife Beverly. They have two sons.

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OMG they both live in Thomaston?

And you haven't called the AJC yet?!?!?!?

Why, why I'll bet they belong to the same Rotary club. Scandalous!!! Call in the feds, the National Guard!!!

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Truth...

you're more rational as Jack..stick with him

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Another one, PSB?

I'm sure you meant to say "than Jack"...not "as Jack"

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Ho Jevank get a clue

No I meant what I wrote, and mind your own business

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Where's there's smoke...

Isn't the point here that when Judges and attorneys have relationships of any kind that go beyond professional, the perception of a potential bias exists. For example, if a Judge and an attorney serve on the same Bank Board of Directors, the Judge should recuse himself or herself from any case in which the Bank has an interest. This is at the heart of the concept of conflict of interest.

Uncovering these ties and their potential to influence justice are imperative to restoring the people's faith in the judicial system.

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Winner, winner--- chicken dinner

That would be the same screwing 'em all Brown. Great country where you can be that bad and keep your license.

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Why is Edwards still on the bench?

The question needs to be answered by the Judge himself, or the State will come in and answer it for him. He has shown a willingness to protect his fellow Jurists, no matter what they have done. Caldwell shows he doesn't understand his role in and out of court. English finds out and ignores his sworn duties. Edwards gets told about the situation by Brown and English and comes up with a get out of jail free card written in "legalese" for his buddies.

Luckily for justice, nobody touched it.

There are other questions that now have to be asked. How will the appelate courts handle the flood of cases to turn over every case handled by all three of these Judges who have proven their inability to uphold the laws of the State. Who will pay out on the Civil cases that are sure to follow against the Judges for all of the wasted attorney's fees? Are there criminal charges to follow? When a Judge resigns because of his own unadmitted wrong doings, does he still draw a pension?

My other women friends who have been through this Circuit have long complained of a perceived bias against women. Maybe it was just sour grapes after all.

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law.com's take on the Fayette Judge situation

Judge Resigns in Wake of Sexual Harassment Claims

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Law.com's article on Fayette Judges (all 3)

Sorry for the cut/paste. Please go to law.com and search CROOK
you will see the article...has lots more info. than listed here.
worth the effort!

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alittlebirdietoldme

That ruling, Freed said, cost Crook "tens of thousands of extra dollars. The whole process is tainted now."

Yeah, it's interesting to note Freed's commment that the whole process is tainted. It was tainted from day one when Ms. Bell hired Susan Brown. Ms. Bell is not concerned about the cost of all this...quite obviously. I wonder what they are really trying to hide with all the continuances they have filed to keep this from going to trial.

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from what I read, they are waiting on discovery from Plaintiff~
never did comply with financials (that's a biggie, no?)

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Can't always believe

Can't always believe everything you read....it could be "tainted".

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Disgraced Judge Edwards needs to step down, too

Judge Edwards attempted to use the legal system in order to bully attorneys (via a "voluntary" consent order) solely to protect Judge Caldwell.

The fact that he insisted that Brown and Futch sign it over their objections shows that he lacks both the ethics and temperament to be an impartial judge.

His conduct reflects poorly upon the judicial circuit and is a disgrace to our community.

He should step down or be removed.

Edited to add:
Here is the link to the Law.com article

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Hmm

Judges should expect more from themselves and their colleagues. The behavior continues because those doing it are never held accountable.

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Looks like Greg Cook it connected to the Good Old Boy Network~
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Psycho Attorney!

This atttorney is CRAZY! I hope the truth will come out about her .... she doesn't show up for court and when she does she is unprepared... she's just trying to put the blame on someone for a divorce case she hasn't been able to settle in 3 years! I know a lot of people really know what happened at that football game... she is a real flirt! Shame on her!
And, good for you Governor Perdue... you have fired how many judges in the state of Georgia because of the budget cuts? And cut my 6 year old baby girl's art, music, and technology! Way to go Sonny!

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Psych

perhaps because she is stretched a bit thin ... being involved in the Anna Nicole Smith case ?
http://www.rosespeaks.com/tag/susan-m-brown-georgia-attorney/

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Kinda bouncing around there observer

Try to focus and re-post.

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justanobserver: is

Commander Brown, the husband, involved?

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not that I know of....

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Judges being judged

Alllllll aboarddddddddd.........The RailRoad.....

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Forced to compel...

Anyone who has gone through a divorce knows that all financials have to be released during discovery. From what I hear, Mr Crook never did this and Judge Caldwell nor Judge English forced him to compel. You cannot move forward on a divorce case without all of the financials. The real losers in this case and the entire district for that matter are the CHILDREN! What a shame! I have been in Judge Caldwell's courtroom and even heard Alan Connells arguments... They all begin and end with MONEY! What a shame for the innocent children forced to deal with such unsavory characters to uphold the judicial system. How many other children have been harmed at the hands of these immoral baffoons???

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Peach Pit--what in the hell

does "forced to compel" mean?

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It is when a "bafoon" is after you. That is what "forced to compel" really means!

Ain't them "Crooks" gots tons of muney nohow? Them kids will do good better and best.

I have been forced to compel on here!!! Seems sometimes that levity is not appreciated.

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I think what IS immoral, is

I think what IS immoral, is for an attorney to allow herself to take thousands of dollars from a client for two years that COULD have gone toward the children's benefit.

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What? The Lady works for free.

Where are you from?

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The kids aren't lawyers! Billing hours is three courses in law school!

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Thank you, Bonkers, for that syllabus on law school. You completely missed the point of my comment.

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Obviously the sexual harassment and alleged inpropriety in this case was majorly significant hence the investigation and now resignations of 2 judges. Judges do not resign so casually. If the defendant would not waive her rights, she is also a victim and her children. I wish the other female attorneys Caldwell admitted to harassing would come forward.

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Connell.....what a joke

One of your Thomaston brethren here ol' Alan. Your antics are widely known. The internet is your worst enemy. So much information at everyone's fingertips. You really wanted this case over quickly? Then why did the defense have to file a motion for contempt in March 2010 because your client didn't comply with court ordered discovery? How could the case possibly move forward? Keep spinning that tale ol' Alan. I have a broken watch...and even it's correct twice a day. More than I can say for you.

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Thomaston_Born need your help

Please see thread on lead article on judge/subdivision re: Alan Connell.
Does English reside in Thomaston by any chance? Any other judges/publishers connected to the local bank of choice?

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O BABY

Just wait I bet that it is just the beginning. Let's check out City Hall too.

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Good to see that Ms. Brown is

Good to see that Ms. Brown is not being seen as faultless in all this mess. She is not a considered a very strong attorney and not considered that strong in the courtroom. I am sure that she has her own motives will come out during all this investigation. I only hope that when a new judge is considered, they might look for someone with more morals, ethics and experience outside of Fayette County. Look at Martindale Hubbell's listing of Fayette attorneys and you will find very very few with an A1 (the highest possible) rating.

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Check yourself

If you have a mother or a daughter that has worked in a predominantly male field, the chances are very high they have suffered from sexual harassment. To come forward not only affects the individuals involved but affects the victim's career. It is not a decision that comes lightly. I myself have suffered from sexual harassment and it is a horrible experience!!!!!!!! Obviously the evidence was big enough to force 2 judges to resign. Let's not forget, Caldwell admitted to doing this to multiple female attorneys. He is a predator and deserves this punishment!!! English got his just desserts for ignoring it! I just hate they both probably keep their pensions!

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Sexual Harrassment

Men - and women - will learn that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. The 'old boys'/'women bosses' way of addressing 'some' women/men or using profanity to diminish a female/male's self esteem is coming to a close. Hallelujah!

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DM & Sexual Harrassment

Agree with your post but don't you find it a tad strange that it took 2 to 3 yrs to report? One might think that it was perhaps the last arrow in her quiver to try and snatch some sort of victory from the jaws of defeat.

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You know, I find this whole story 'strange'. It's like Faytte County has become the Peyton Place of 2010. Too many innuendos. The families of all involved are victims it seems to me. No judgments being made, for I know nothing about any of the involved - just sad that this is the way Fayette County makes the 6:00 News.

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This is the last ditch effort of a failing attorney to try to get her way in a trial. She is obviously getting abused in this case, and this is the only way she could stand a chance. It is a pity that someone would have to stoop to this level to win a case, its obvious this was a setup even to the most untrained of eyes. This investigation should not only be of the judges but of Mrs. Brown and her conduct leading up to this.

Seems that her business must be down so she needs some face time on the news to try and scrounge up some business. Not the type of PR I would recommend.

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Amen brother.

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Waiting....

Not only is her conduct ethically reprehensible, just wait and see who she is connected with that becomes a new judge.

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One Nation

You have heard the joke about St. Peter trying to find a lawyer in Heaven?

Well, maybe some of the lawyers involved with the Tennis Center or standups for the City Of PTC?

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It is lovely that you all support sexual harassment!!! You should be ashamed of yourselves!!! OneNationUnderGod: I would love to know to what God you are referring? Definitely not the one this country was founded on!!

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Checks and Balances

I don't think either of the posters is "...supporting sexual harassment". It exists, it's reprehensible and it should be dealt with swiftly and severely. A key concept here is swiftly. I, too, question why it took her three years to bring this accusation to light.

Earlier in my career at a Fortune 100 company, my manager at the time who was a well-connected, long-term VP of Sales, tried to make me a victim of sexual harrassment. This wasn't just an occasional risqué comment or an off-color joke- this guy said and did repulsive things on a daily basis that would offend any reasonable person- man or woman. I was well aware that I wasn't the only one.

After about three months of being subjected to his groping and lewd propositions, I collected enough evidence to present a case to the VP of HR, to this guy's boss and to the Senior VP, so it couldn't be swept under the rug.

About three days into the ordeal, a female colleague approached me about filing her own claim. She said that he'd done the same things to her for years. She said that she laughed it off, tolerated it, ignored it for years. She felt that, for a long time, he "took care" of her and putting up with his junk was the price she had to pay for his favoritism. Recently, however, he put her on a performance improvement plan, so she said she didn't have to "put up with him" any more, and she wanted to file a claim of her own in support of mine.

Point is, there are men out there who harrass their female employees and there are also women who accept it, encourage it, condone it- as long as it suits their needs. But the minute the tide turns against them, they want to run to the front of the line to file a harassment complaint.

If, in fact, Ms. Brown acted in a similar way, she, like my former colleague, is far more guilty of supporting sexual harrassment than any poster on this blogsite.

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Paschal and Johnny have resigned

Is there no way that they can still be investigated?

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Make that Paschal English (sorry for the spelling)

We're down to 2 judges.

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Pascal English

News flash... Pascal English has resigned!

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The Pelican Brief?

This story smells rotten to the core. If I'm reading the information correctly, I'm breaking this down : A husband and a wife are in the midst of a messy, ugly divorce (God bless the children), the wife's counsel, Susan Brown, continues the case 5, yes five, times and still isn't getting what she and her client want, so at the expense of everyone concerned (God bless the children) takes a risque comment made by a judge (one of the many who have touched this case by word, hand or breath), at a football game and the justice system is turned upside down, taking down a judge with a history of work that has been fair, intelligent, often inspiring, with it. Wow. I am a 50 year old professional female, and had no idea I could have this much power to wreak havoc on the justice system, revered judges, and innocent families. Mr. Connell, you are correct, this case is being held hostage. However, if I ever get divorced, and am willing to take no prisoners, including my own children, I want Ms. Brown to represent me.

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Susan Brown is a joke...

[quote=OneNationUnderGod] "...Susan Brown, continues the case 5, yes five, times and still isn't getting what she and her client want..."

Susan Brown is no innocent in all this. Yes, Johnnie Caldwell admitted to making inappropriate sexual remarks, but Susan Brown is not professional in her conduct, dress, and ethical manner either. Not that it is right to make comments like Johnnie Caldwell has made, but she sits in depositions and courtrooms with a low cut shirt with her chest spilling out over the top. I sat in a deposition with Susan Brown. The entire deposition was embarrassing for me because every time she spoke she leaned over with her cleavage spilling out. As OneNationUnderGod said about Susan Brown continuing cases, this is true. She delayed my court case a total of 5 times and it took about 1 1/2 years to get in court. She would call my attorney THE MORNING OF COURT and always had a myriad of excuses.

Susan Brown is an incompetent, unprofessional, unethical person. Also, I believe she is/was being investigated by the law boards because of a complaint filed by one of the judges in Fayette Co.

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AMEN!

You are sooooo right...people are judging by what they read in the media... but they don't know the whole truth and probably nobody ever will. They see her as a VICTIM.... haahaaahaaa. What a joke! All I got to say is karma is a you know what! The people that really know her ... they know the truth!

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Springtime Music for the Courthouse Gang

How about a little spring time music for these crazy judges? What a beautiful time of year---- how about 1928 classic “Making Whoopee”. The music was written by Walter Donaldson, the words by Gus Kahn and first appeared as part of the Broadway-Musical "Whoopee!" in 1928.

Here you go you rowdy courthouse guys---- the great performance by Michelle Pfeiffer of “Making Whoopee”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TULYBRHBAs&feature=related

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Before you break out the champagne, beautifulday4us

please consider how these 2 judges will be replaced (appointment) and by whom (a Republican Gov.) and what "qualifications" the Republican screening group will consider (service to the local Republican Party). Got it?

Now after considering all that, practice saying the following for the next time you are in court - Judge Eric Maxwell, Judge Peter Pfeifer, Judge Greg Dunn, Judge Hobie Jones, Judge Steve Kiser, Judge George Wingo. I'm sure you get the idea - and they'll have to appoint 2 at the same time from a pretty shallow pool. And no, you don't have to be a lawyer to be a judge - not even on the U.S. Supreme Court.

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This article just went from

This article just went from news to gossip column.

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Who's investigating the JQC?

My understanding is that this Richard Hyde, staff investigator for the JQC, showed up unannounced at Caldwell's office on Monday; played some recordings of the Judge back to him; and then demanded his resignation. He likely followed up his demand with the threat of the loss of Caldwell's pension.

Apparently, Caldwell was already considering retiring, and when this guy came in threatening him - with the promise that his letter to Perdue would be confidential - Caldwell must have figured, "I've had enough" and agreed to tender his resignation.

It's also worth noting that (1) Caldwell's father was in the hospital at the time suffering from a recent stroke and bad case of pneumonia; and (2) Hyde must have demanded his immediate resignation. So the document was likely signed both under duress and possibly without the right to counsel.

The whole thing's suspicious. If Hyde hadn't likely misrepresented that the resignation would be kept confidential, Caldwell may not have signed it (at least not as hastily as he did). Also, Mike Bowers, who's had his own character issues, serves as a prosecutor in the JQC's cases against judges, and he's also a member of the Judicial Nominating Commission. Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

I'll save commenting about this Susan Brown until I know more. All I know now is that I wouldn't want to be one of her clients or "friends" given her apparent propensity to record and use information against people.

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The JQC bunch

It is my understanding that they can't be investigated! It is the end of the cover-up line, if a cover-up is needed!

I don't understand your obvious defense of the judge. He is supposedly a bright man who judges other people and makes decisions every work day for others. And, why does something have to be kept "confidential," if there is no illegality?

All people's Fathers and Mothers eventually die and they don't go Bonkers (excuse me).

As to the "Susan Brown," lawyer and supposedly the wife of a PTC policeman--is that the policeman Brown who made the news often when he was a traffic cop? That must be an "in" family!

The quicker this mess is adjudicated and completed the better for all of us.

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Why the rush to hush this up? I think this is BAD BAD BAD ethics and it seems like the whole district has been covering A LOT of stuff up. This investigation needs to become federal in order to be investigated properly.

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I so agree..this investigation needs to become Federal!

Absolutely need help beyond the walls of Fayette County for this to be handled ethically.

As citizens, we deserve at least this much, especially for future cases yet to be heard. I don't know what can be done for those unfortunate enough to be involved in tainted past cases.

And we still have the power to vote.

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and tribal counsel them off.

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The First Amendment at its Finest

You are not suggesting that everyone is not entitled to express their opinions are you? It sounds like you support the idea that only those who agree with you should be allowed to post. There are plenty of places around the world where you would get your wish. Russia, China, Iran, Iraq. Take your pick.

Spyglass
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You're clueless on the 1st Amendment...

and it's total lack of having anything to do with comments posted on this website.

Take a Civics Class.

Sugar Hunn
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The United States Supreme Court would beg to differ

I hope that before you cast aspersions, you would do your homework. In Reno v. ACLU, (docket #: 96-511) (1997), the Court ruled 7-2 that the First Amendment does indeed carry over to the Internet. In this particular case, the protected speech was in the form of pornography. And as vile and offensive as that may be to some, the purveyor's right to distribute it over the internet is protected by the First Amendment. That was thirteen years ago and Congress has not successfully changed the law.

According to the Court, comments regarding political issues are afforded the highest level of protection.

I think the First Amendment is directly on point with the concept of posters being protected by the First Amendment, no matter their stated opinion. The is exception, libel.

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I stand by my original comment..you're clueless

on this subject.

I fail to see why you think your referenced court case has anything to do with what the Citizen allows on their own web site. IF anything, it proves my point even more, the Citizen is in control of this website. They can choose to delete/remove posts at will..for any reason.

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