PTC cops’ motto: ‘to serve & collect’

You may think the ticket I received for exceeding 40 in the 30 mph zone on Huddleston Drive is my motivation for pointing the finger at our police. But the truth is that ticket merely pokes me with a sharp stick to say publicly what has been bothering me for some time. Besides, I was guilty of speeding and will pay the fine.

What bothers me is we law-abiders should feel a connection of trust and support with our police force, but for a very long time that has not been the case in Peachtree City. What should be “we” long ago turned into “us vs. them.”

My ticket came from a motorcycle cop (nice guy) hiding behind a bush on Huddleston Drive. Maybe the police department needed revenue this week, but the speed traps I see prompt two thoughts.

First, instead of protecting us, they are feeding on us.

Second, if our police department has enough officers to set up speed traps in town, maybe they are overstaffed. Maybe they should be subject to the same belt-tightening as other city departments despite the “hands-off” attitude at City Hall about the public safety budget.

When our family moved to Peachtree City in 1971, Haskell Barber was our wonderful police chief, and his car read “PTC police — to serve & protect.” And he did.

Times have changed. Hiding behind bushes, lying in wait around a curve, trying to catch moms on the way to the grocery store, the family on their way to soccer games or, heaven forbid, a golfer who had a beer with buddies after a round at Flat Creek. It’s the sneaky, gotcha strategy that makes me mad.

With 105 cars and a couple of motorcycles, I would like to think our police are focused on catching the bank robbers, drug dealers from Atlanta or the burglars from Clayton County.

Disheartening is the best word I have for the realization they are trying to catch you and me, waiting to nail us to raise money. They see us not as partners, but as prey.

I guess that’s what passes for law enforcement leadership these days.

Never mind my ticket. I’ll gladly pay the fine for exceeding the Huddleston speed limit. I just wish we could trust our police force to be looking out for us instead of seeking an opportunity to hammer us to feed their kitty.

I don’t know about you but I lost that trust long before my ticket.

If there are any Peachtree City police cars left with the “protect and serve” slogan on them, replacing them with “We’ll get you one day!” would at least have the virtue of being honest.

I appeal sincerely, Mr. Police Chief, tear down that wall you are building between the good citizens of PTC and start building trust and respect again.

Send those officers out each day with the mission “to serve & protect” making PTC the safest and friendliest town in the South.

Dean Fryer
Fayetteville, Ga.

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The code section in GA for

The code section in GA for traffic is about 50 pages long. Not every traffic stop is for speeding. everything from brakelights to seatbelts is covered.

lets also not forget that officers give warnings too. just because you see a car pulled over doesn't automatically mean someone is getting a ticket.

Some of these stories are fairly unbelievable, perhaps they happened 10 years ago? you wont find "Fix it tickets" in GA anymore.

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Georgia Traffic Laws

In speaking with a local police officer, the law states that a local police officer doing traffic enforcement can not hide as to entrap a vehicle speeding,(i.e. must be visible from a distance and there are also restrictions as to writing traffic citations on hills/winding roads) and the speed must exceed the speed limit by 10 mph. However, Georgia State Patrol officer's do not have to meet those thresholds when writing traffic citations.
In reading the numerous comments on either side of this issue, I would like for you to ask yourself this question? How often do you wave hello when passing your local police officer on the street while driving? How about buying them a cup of coffee, or lunch the next time you see them sitting in back of you at the drive thru? And lastly, would you honestly do their job for the pay, and the grief they receive from the general public when simply doing their job? The vast majority of our public servants are severely underpaid, and just trying to complete a job they were hired to do.

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Respect & Appreciate

I can only speak for myself ...but I would venture a guess we all appreciate the work the front line patrol officers do on a daily basis; they are the tip of the spear. Anyone who has to strap on body armor and hitch a 9mm to his or her belt as a precursor to going to work has my deepest respect. I believe none of us who've received tickets "blame" or feel animosity towards any of the officers we have gotten a chance to meet. Nobody likes getting a ticket and the officer making the stop has to assume/anticipate the worst with respect to the stopped individual. I know I'm a pretty good egg but Officer Peachtree doesn't know me from Adam.

The officers are following orders. Orders from their watch commander who in turn gets them from higher up all the way to the Chief of Police who in turn is beholden to the City Fathers and eventually up to the Mayor. The chain of command. All this hoohah goes to policy.

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How do you think they pay for those Cars

TAX, TAX ,TAX, just another way to pay for their stuff.
I agree with your letter, and the zero tolerance rule is effective every where. I believe those guys would write their kinfolk tickets.

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Mr Fryer

Go back and read the story "Deputies Nab 3 Felons." They were not stopped because they had just robbed a bank or a citizen (chances are, they were going to). They were caught because they were stopped, most likely, for some type of traffic/moving violation (speeding, expired tag, no insurance, no tag light, improper lane change....you know, the menial things. This is not the only story you will find in The Citizen about felons being arrested on "routine" traffic stops. Pull your head out and grow up. I for one say "Thank You" to all our local law enforcement!

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To serve and collect

Mr. Fryer's point ought to be better taken. We seem to have set up a system in which the easiest and most profitable thing for our police to accomplish is the routine issuance of speeding violations. I couldn't locate a summary of traffic violations but anecdotally I see people placing others in hazzard of their lives on a daily basis because they are on the phone or texting. I'd be curious to know how many of these violations are handed out by our police force. I venture to guess the answer is: not many. If true I would guess the simple reason is that such a violation would be hard to prove.
Yet this distracted driving is precisely where greater and routine enforcement of existing laws would make us all safer...far more than the alert driver exceeding the speed limit by 10 mph.
I don't think anyone expects the police to NOT do their job and enforcement of the law is their job. On the other hand their concentrating on the easy (speeding) leaves little time or inclination to do the hard (distracted driving), and while both are dangerous, the latter is far more likely to produce an accident than slightly exceeding the speed limit on a straight, flat, and dry road.
In the end this all adds up to asking: where does our police department place their priorities. Is it revenue collection or public safety?

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Huzzah. Okay, add Mr Parker

Huzzah.

Okay, add Mr Parker to the group "Someone else who gets it".

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Mike

When did the democrats free him from indenture?

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Grow a pair ...

The issue here is that you are unwilling to / are not admitting your own culpability in VIOLATING THE LAW. Grow a pair (and grow up). You broke the law. If, as you state / believe, you are being picked on / targeted, feel free to go to court and argue your case. I will be there to laugh at you while you do so.

I applaud the PTC for busying your balls and hope they continue to do so.

As noted above, grow a pair and move on. You will find no support here.

Bob

Ps: further to the above, I endorse the making of the referenced area at 25 mph as is the standard in many towns.

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Mine are bigger ...

Yo, BiPlane ...you need to chill. And you need to *read*. NONE of us are denying we did wrong. GOT IT??? None. We screwed up and admitted it and paid our fines and went on with life.

If you'd read and comprehend what we're collectively saying you'd see we're asking why? Why ...when there are so many more important/critical areas to police ...does the PTCPD seem to spend an inordinate amount of time staking out this little section of Huddleston Road. That's all. Nothing more.

But then given the overall banality of your response and your teenage infatuation with the male anatomy (mine are bigger than yours) I doubt seriously you'd really understand what's going on here.

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Haddix: Huddleston

If anyone wants to file a complaint or suggestion on the location of signage, etc, you can email me at dhaddix@peachtree-city.org. Your email will be forwarded to engineering, etc for a response and I will be CC on the response.

Now, as for who lowered the speed limit, Council did, not the PD.

As for why, as noted by S. Lindsey we must comply with NHTSA standards. To that I will add GDOT and we also have to comply with the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD).

Further, at 40 MPH, golf carts are not allowed on a road. That is why many roads in PTC are 30 MPH.

The golf cart tunnel connection from the CSX/54 bridge to Huddleston is right there. Also business driveways.

The Huddleston and 54 Intersection is a dangerous intersection.

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Mayor Haddix - Citizen rule violation?

Mayor Haddix
I believe you are violating the publisher's campaign rules by promoting your campaign blog on the newspaper's blog.
You may want to take this down and issue Cal an apology before you get kicked off!

Also hope you are not signing your name with your blog on city emails either.
That's a violation of the city email policy.

Larry

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Haddix: You Beleive Incorrectly, Larry

Cal said it is okay for me to include donhaddix.com on the blog. The rule you are citing is for the print edition.

As an FYI, I use a forum, not a blog. Very different software.

My City email sig in HTML blue 14 font AR Berkley is:

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Now, do you wish to offer me an apology for your comments?

Peachtree City Mayor
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Apology to Don Haddix

Lets see...

My last apology to you involved your wife after I accused her to being responsible for saying something to Joey Grisham at Fresh Market. You said she say nothing and I believed you and offered an apology which you accepted on line.

Funny because you actually LIED on the blogs about that when it was confirmed by Mr. Grisham himself and Mr King that she did in fact tell him "I hope your tenure here in Peachtree City is short". You never once apologized for that! No apology to the citizens which was due!

Sadly Don, this is only one of hundreds of lies you have told over the 4 years...you are known as a liar and a dishonest person in town.

I will apologize with pleasure as soon as you apologize for taking $13,000 in taxpayer money over a private lawsuit that you were denied twice on and then forced the city attorney to write your third request and were paid on an email technicality. We know that GIRMA paid to make you go away knowing it didn't matter since it was below the deductibility and the taxpayers were going to pay for it.

Haddix,, we are all owed an apology from you! And on a wide range of issues.

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Haddix: Thanks, Larry

Again you prove my point by repeating old claims long proven false.

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Haddix is too funny

So Cathy never said a word to Joey Grisham.... That's funny.

And you still blame city council for the money you took over a private lawsuit.... That's funny.

Every time you post here someone calls you out on a lie or 1/2 truth and all you can do is fight with them and quote some weird statistic from one of your GMC classes.....I think I just read the term delusional. That appears to be a word that pops up alot surrounding you. Not my term, but one used quite a bit.

Sad for you and sad for our city for electing you.

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Larry: Just ignore Haddix

He has zero supporters here(even "pumpkin" disappeared) and has zero supporters on his own website that has been up for a few years. The guy has no chance in hell of getting re-elected and arguing with him is a waste of your time.

Believe this: Haddix has next to nothing in terms of support and you don't have to call him out on his BS because he's doomed to lose.

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NUK_1-Haddix-Taxpayer Money

You are 100% correct!

He's totally irrelevant....he has told too many lies over the past 4 years and lost all credibility, not to mention the money he took from the citizens.

Poor bastard thinks he will win when he has lost the public's trust.

Return the taxpayer money you took from us!
Return our money now!

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Mayoral morons

It's ironic that the funds not snatched up by lawyers Larry wants returned are held by another candidate in this race. No question Haddix earned his flogging but I don't understand how Logsdon has escaped his. What kind of pansy sues for libel over being called "part drunk"? If Haddix is but half a man, Logsdon must be only a quarter. I pity the fools who vote for either of them.

Steve

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So you are fine with slander/libel type actions?

Interesting. . Best of luck.

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Clueless Joe ...

Yikes.

Mr Mayor you need to get out more.

I won't reiterate what the others have said but you need to get out more. Your bag of clues in this matter is kinda empty. I mean, really empty.

I don't live in PTC anymore (thank heavens) and I know more of what's going on in your backyard than you do. That's not good.

"As for why, as noted by S. Lindsey we must comply with NHTSA standards. To that I will add GDOT and we also have to comply with the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD)."

Okay, politician-speak here. Lotsa words, official sounding abbreviations and blame deflection but no *reason* stated. What is it about little ol' Huddleston Road that's got all these government organizations with their undies in a bunch pokin' their noses and apparently mandating the 30mph speed limit?? Or simply:

What's the *reason* for the 30mph speed limit on Huddleston Road?

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Mr Mayor

Get your facts straight.
Golf Carts are allowed on Dividend Drive and the speed limit is 40. You even have bike lanes on each side.
Have you ever considered remaining silent and not validating the opinion most have of you?

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Haddix: Fact

I have my facts straight, you need to get yours straight.

I voted for adding a CART PATH to Dividend. It is a path, legally, not a part of the road. Separated from the road by a solid white line.

No law requires a walking, golf cart or bike path be physically detached from a road.

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Simply Brilliant!

Our delusional mayor believes that if a solid white lane is painted on a city street, it becomes a cart path because he voted for it. Perhaps he also voted for those double white lines on state roads to keep oncoming traffic from entering the 'path' of golf cart traffic.

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You cannot make this up.

LMAO

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Hang in there - it is only 4 more months

He may not leave until January, but at least we will know who is coming in as early as November. Even if there is a runoff, we will know he is not part of our future. And yes indeed, Spyglass, you cannot make this stuff up - nor would you want to.

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Me too

Like a few others here, I got a speeding ticket on the same stretch of road after picking my car up from a repair shop. By the time I crested a rise and saw the 30 MPH speed limit sign, I was already busted. The polite officer informed me that the limit had been dropped so much because there was a kids' activity center on the road. I paid the ticket, but am still bummed because the sign isn't visible early enough unless you drive a truck or SUV.

What irritates me is the failure to use turn signals, or talking on cell phones while driving by cops in our vehicles. Once I even stopped next to one and informed him that his left turn signal must be out. "Umm, thanks, I will check it out" he said.

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Whining Speeders

Quit your whining and set a good example for your kids. Pay your fine and slow your speedy self down. Whaa, whaa, whaa!

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Give it a rest… GROW UP!

Cry me a river!

Grow the heck up and admit your wrong doing, pay the fine and obey the speed limits!

BTW…did both of you crybabies stop by last evening and say hello? I saw that Mr. Police Chief tore down that wall (on Huddleston) you requested. Continuing to protect (removing drunks and law breakers from the PTC streets) and serve they were feeding on you again last night on Peachtree Parkway.

When I drove by they had someone in handcuffs! Can you believe it..the nerve of these guys…. I bet this person was a good ‘ol law abiding citizen just like you other “crybabies!

I sure hope you didn’t create a gene pool of crybabies. One generation of you in our society is enough!

And oh by the way…great job Peachtree City Police for keeping me and my community safe.

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To Serve & Collect

Looks like Dean Frye is getting fried here.

Well I'll stand next to him and add my voice to his with regard to speed enforcement in Peachtree City. I, too, received a ticket for exceeding the draconian 30mph limit PoliceTree City enacted on Huddleston. As a kindred spirit I also question if this is the best use of this officer to sit and nail homemakers, husbands and handymen.

We lived in PTC for almost 12 years. The speed limit on Huddleston was 40mph ...just like it is after you pass Paschall Rd onto Dividend Drive. In all those 12 years I *never* saw speed enforcement on Huddleston Rd. Then the Huddleston limit gets reduced to 30mph and the cops are out there like white on rice with the radar gun. Why? Why, if speed control was/is so important along the Huddleston corridor, wasn't the old, more reasonable 40mph limit *ever* enforced? Have you looked at how the cops set up ...to set you up? Next time you idle along Huddleston and you see the speed trap look and see which way the cop is beaming with the radar; he/she is always scanning cars coming from Hwy 54 which is, dollars to donuts, how Mr Frye got nailed. It's how I got nailed and how I've seen every other rube get caught. Why? Because coming from Hwy 54 you're going down hill and, if you're not paying rapt attention to your speed, you'll be doing in excess of 40mph very easily. At 45mph, you're dead meat. Next time you come from Home Depot or Wal-Mart and make that turn onto Huddleston take note how easy it is to be doing 40mph almost instantly as you run down the hill. If your mind is on getting home for the kids or figuring out some detail on that project you got the lumber for you won't notice you've picked it up to 45mph ...because you're still going downhill (literally and figuratively). And whereas before, when the limit was 40mph, you were an okay guy; today you're a speeder and law breaker. And then, ooops, you've got one of PoliceTree City's finest on his shiny new Harley (that you're now going to help make a payment on) raking you with flashing blue lights and strobes. In my case, it was 10:00 PM on a Wednesday with all the businesses closed and me the only car on the road.

So all you law-abiding pundits out there I hear you. I am not arguing my guilt and, despite what you might think, I am a law abiding citizen. But when you look at how Huddleston Road has been set up, how the cops *always* set up the speed trap for "maximum effect", you'll see this has nothing to do with "a show of force" or just good random speed enforcement. Nope. Huddleston is a money maker for PTC pure and simple trying to hide under the (dis)guise of "law enforcement". It generates money for PTC and statistics to make the police department look better than it might be. Sleep tight Peachtre City ...

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Call the city

You can petition the city to change the speed limits on city roads, as they have the power to change them (per GA DOT). But, until they are change we must obey them, or face the consequences of our choices.

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OK I am going to weigh in on this...

... I have been mostly ignoring it because I have heard the phase "I pay your salary" and "Why are you harassing us instead of catching a Burglar or something"..so many times it is like an echo chamber heard over and over..

First... Mr. Fryer Speed enforcement is one of the jobs that you pay their salary for. That is why it is called a speed limit. Limits implies that is the maximun safe speed for that area..you exceeded that thus you broke a LAW. Law ENFORCEMENT is their job so...

Speed Limits are placed based upon the NHTSA Safety studies. These studies provide a guideline for City's to determine that limit. They are for your safety, as well as. others.

Second..Find me a Police Officer that would rather write a ticket then catch a Burglar or a Drug dealer and I will show you a Officer that is past retirement age. We just LOVE the condescending attitude we get or the "Do you know who I am" speech..

Simple solution.. you don't want a speeding ticket slow down.. We don't like spending HOURS in 90 degree heat, sweating in dark blues and a Kevlar vest doing a accident report because someone was going to fast for the area or conditions. Believe me you deserve the ticket you get.

Lastly.. Mr. Fryer I know you don't like the tactics used to enforce some laws... Most criminals don't either.

However, we are just doing the job in which the City, County or State hired us for. Speed enforcement is part of that.

We can't very well put up signs saying " WARNING Police around corner" sort of defeats the purpose of deterrence doesn't? I mean I bet you will remember that ticket for years to come and SLOW down while in PTC..

Viola you have just discovered the purpose.

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More like Harass and Intimidate

Personally the PTC fuzz have been great to me, however I believe it is because they profile me as a person of responsibility and influence due to my age, gender, skin color, manly good looks, and place of residence within PTC. Yet I've seen plenty of harassment and unequal enforcement of the negative kind levied toward those that do not share my esteemed profile.

Kidding aside, injustice thrives at all levels here. It just burns me up when I see things as simple as a cop telling teens that Lake Peachtree non-park designated areas are off limits and evicting them, while the cop smiles upon a father and son (of the favorable persuasion) fishing in an "off-limits" area. If you do not believe these same lines of injustice are applied at all levels of enforcement, you're pitifully naive. I do not think there's a sinister purpose at work, I just think we're over-policed and we need to scale back the force.

I suppose those of you who admonish someone for complaining of unreasonable intervention by the authorities also don't see the purpose for the 4th amendment. If I'm not breaking the law, why should I care if I'm inspected?

Steve

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And, I hope so!

I am tired of folks complaining that the PTC police actually do the job of enforcing the laws.

Folks, if you don't want to pay fines, don't break the law. I, for one, like it when the police both stop and "shake down" the idiots who seem to be unable to follow simple rules of society.

As noted above, if you don't like the PTC police, please look in the mirror. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!

PTC Police, please keep up the enforcement of the most menial of laws. This type of activity cleaned up Times Square and it will keep PTC clean.

And finally, I am even more tired of people complaining about "Hiding behind bushes, lying in wait around a curve, trying to catch moms on the way to the grocery store, the family on their way to soccer games or, heaven forbid, a golfer who had a beer with buddies after a round at Flat Creek. It’s the sneaky, gotcha strategy that makes me mad." This is exactly the dangerous and immature behavior that I want my police to stop.

You sir, are a cry baby. Grow up and get a pair because you, obviously, do not have them now.

Bob

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If you were not breaking the law

Mr. Fryer,

While I myself have had plenty of speeding tickets, I don't blame the police officers for doing the job. Why?? If I wasn't breaking the law (and yes speeding is considered breaking the law)then I wouldn't have been stopped and given the citation.

While police officers have the discretion of issuing a citation or a warning, our own driving records and attitudes usually dictate the end result.

Why should a police office give someone a warning for continuing speeding violations? It is obvious the other warnings were ignored and driving habit not corrected. Sometimes money out of our pockets gets us to change our bad behavior.

Sitting in the woods does not constitute a speed trap according to GA law, again if you are driving correctly and at the speed limit you wouldn't have been stopped

While there may be arguments about the size of any police force, we are still well protected.

Lets give the men and women in uniform a break, remember a ticket isn't just a "harassment" action but of way of helping us drivers remember the rules of the road and correct our own action.

Remember that most police officers are not highly paid but we expect 200% more out of them then they get paid for. They put their lives on the line to protect us when a crime is happening, usually first on scene for a medical emergency, and help get people out of a burning building/car. Do they deserve a thank you? A pat on the back? Yes, but they are just happy to do the job they are charged with everyday.

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Mr. Fryer I notice

That you are from Fayetteville?

I think you can start by actually moving to PTC before you start writing about PTCPD "walls" and the citizens they serve.

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"to cry and whine"

Mr. Fryer, laws exist for the safety and well being of all citizens, traffic laws included. To suggest that our entire police force dedicate themselves to bank robbers, drug dealers and burglers is absurd. This being said I would like to suggest a very simple solution to police stops for traffic violations. Obey the law, follow the rules. It is not a complicated concept, costs you no money, energy or time to implement, requires no additional education and will allow you to earn appreciation from your Fayette County neighbors.

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It is show business, Dean. Its what makes us relatively safe.

Whether hiding behind a bush (you still see them) or parking in the median or ticketing someone at the side of the road, the thing that counts more than the fine revenue is visibility. Bad guys thinking about holding up a 7-11 store think twice after they see those cars in the median - ready to give chase. Speeders automatically slow down every time they see a police car. The only thing that seeing those cars does not deter is a bobble-headed teenager texting her BFF - and they get stopped and daddy gets fined and behavior changes for a while.

Visible community policing is a deterrent to bad behavior. Think of it as a show of force. Only problem I have had with that is that we need much more police presence on the cart paths. It has gotten better, but 90 miles is a lot to cover. Wish they would expand the auxiliary police and use them on the cart paths, Again, the visibility is main goal.

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I completely agree with you.

I completely agree with you. We are the taxpayers, we already pay their salary. Why must they "double-dip" from our pockets?

Yes, if someone is committing a crime, including speeding, by all means, let's stop that. But I also feel that we, the citizens who live here, pay taxes and work, shop and play here, and we have become their targets.

Recently, I was driving on Highway 54 South to pick up one of my kids from a friend's house, and at 2 p.m. on a Tuesday afternoon, I counted 5 (!) police cars sitting in medians between Best Buy and the Line Creek Nature area. That is an area less than half a mile--do we really need that display of police force on a stretch of road that no one can go more than 20 mph because of all of the lights and congestion?

I have not had a ticket, nor has anyone in my household, so I am not just a disgruntled "customer." But I definitely feel that we the citizens have become the prey of the police force, and I am also digusted with the lurking behind bushes, trolling for "vicitms" in the fancy motorcycle and pulling people over on the main roads so that the rubberneckers can get a good glimpse of the "criminal."

Doesn't make me feel any safer, nor does it make me believe they are here to protect me.

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Yes we do

We have that many in the vicinity for the numerous motorist that ignore the traffic lights and either block the intersection or "run the light" Remember GA law states that you cannot block an intersection (even if you have a green light) and cannot enter the intersection when the light is yellow.

Husband and Fat...
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Mr. Fryer

With all due respect you do sound like a child put in time out. I have found the PTC cops that I have come in contact with to be nothing but professional and I have no problem with them ticketing speeders. Do you read the police report every week? I do, and can see that these traffic stops prove to be fruitful in ridding PTC of those with no licience, insurance, driving under the influence, and those wanted for probation violations. (In fact I never thought it would be as prevelent a it is)

Pay the fine, and go visit the chief. I am pretty sure he can explain community policing better than any of us here.

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I have found the PTC cops that I have come in contact with to be nothing but professional

I do agree that the PTC police that I've come in contact with are professional. It's not the officer on the street that I blame for this incident that I'm about to convey to you. It is the city and it's policies. It was several years ago, back when we had to have our current insurance cards on us that this happened. I was coming home from work at about 2 am. I was pulled over by PTC police in front of Stein Mart on 54. When I asked why I was pulled over I was told that it was because I had switched lanes without signalling. I responded that we were the only 2 cars on the road and he had to be at least 50 yards behind me when I changed lanes. He agreed and said just show me your license and insurance card and you can be on your way. I showed him my license but my insurance card had expired. The new one was at home, I had forgotten to put it in my wallet. He told me that he had to ticket me but all I had to do was to take my current card to the police station and prove that I was insured at the time of the stop and it would be waived. Sounds fair enough right? Well I did this the next day and the ticket was waived. All it cost me was a $50 service fee!!! So tell me again that the city does not send these guys out on fishing expeditions for revenue for PTC.

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Mr. Fryer, you have no clue how law enforcement works. Traffic enforcement lowers traffic speeds, accidents, and fatalities. It’s funny how you just guess that police must be ignoring serious criminals by enforcing traffic laws. Guess what, police are more likely to apprehend criminals on traffic stops. Bad guys don’t like communities like ours because the cops enforce traffic laws. Do you have any idea how many warrants are cleared each year on traffic stops? How many crimes are prevented by the presence of a law enforcement officer “hiding in the bushes”? You have no clue what you’re talking about. Nobody likes getting a ticket. Do you like living in a nice community? Keep up the enforcement. One of the highest risks a law enforcement officer takes on a daily basis is on traffic stops. To think that these officers take this great risk so they can raise money for the city is not just ridiculous, it’s offensive. You owe these servants an apology.

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