PTC’s dead grass parade

The Dead Grass Parade. Yes, the 4th of July parade on Wednesday should be fun and patriotic. But now for those of us living around south Peachtree Parkway, by noon on the 4th, it will be the Dead Grass Parade.

For some unknown reason, one person started a mob mentality about saving viewing spaces for the parade by putting down a tarp just south of Crosstown on Saturday — a full four days before the parade and with several days of 100-plus degrees highs in between.

The tarps act as ovens and quickly kill the grass. Now, there is mob mentality to quickly save a space and the Parkway as of Sunday evening is littered with tarp ovens over the grass.

After the 4th, those of us actually living in the area will get to enjoy the dead, brown grass due to the thoughtlessness of those putting out way early tarps.

Tarps should be illegal until at least 3 p.m. the day before the parade. City Council should do something about such inconsiderate behavior. Why should the City Council allow damage to city easements?

By the way, I don’t mind those considerate enough to set aside with string or yellow caution tape — those are not grass ovens.

Mark Rogers

Peachtree City, Ga.

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How about you move and then tell us all about it?

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I agree

I was so shocked at how getto some of the people at the fireworks were! They were blocking the paths and intimidating our group. The were "who you, you want to get by, too bad" I would have been scared if there were only women with me! WTH is happening to PTC?

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so many things to whine about, so little time

Folks, there is nothing sacred about the space on which people are laying their tarps (unless we're talking about private property). If you're that concerned about the grass go out there, roll up the tarps, move them off the grass, and set them aside. As long as you don't take the tarps with you, I know of no law protecting people's property that they leave out for days and days. How simple was that?

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true

I'm guessing you are one of those who come out and pull up someone's tarp, toss theirs aside in order to put yours down in it's place?

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dead grass, parade and fireworks

I agree, the tarps are grass killers, especially for three or four days in the extreme hot summer temperatures. The parade seemed shorter than usual this year, but could be attributed to it being on a week day this year, and the fireworks were not the spectacular show we are all used to. Still I love our town keeping the 4th of July traditions that many of us have enjoyed for thirty years. My now, adult children still do not want to be anywhere but here on the 4th.

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2012 Meager Fireworks Display

Although I am grateful that the city puts on the annual 4th of July fireworks show, I can honestly say 2012 was one of the worst shows that I have seen. I have lived in the city for more than 30 years now and I can’t begin to tell you how disappointed I was taking family and friends to this extravaganza. I understand that a couple of years ago that the city hired a different company to do the show, but come on, is saving a few dollars really worth disappointing tens of thousands of people that come from all around to see the “great fireworks display”?

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I agree, Fireworks show wasn't up to standards

I have to say that in my 20+ years here that was the Shortest (15 minutes), most non climactic fireworks show that I have see here. 15 minutes of fireworks for all of the cost (Police, Fire, City workers) it just doesn't seem we are getting our monies worth. I would rather they cancel the show if they can't do it right. Ours used to be "the Biggest Fireworks show on the Southside", but no more. Hell my son put on a better show than the city. It just seems that the hassle is not worth the effort.

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Maybe the economy had something to do with what you consider

sparcity. Everyone I have spoken with said they were very pleased. Just one thing: I know people from all around come to see our fireworks but basically they are for PTC residents, paid for by PTC residents. If visitors are disappointed I would suggest they go to one of the venues downtown or elsewhere where they might be happier.

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Really, Very pleased. I

Really, Very pleased. I would like to know who you talked with because everyone here on the North side of PTC I spoke with had nothing good to say minus “at least they had one”. Not getting off the topic but this is just one more indicator that the city is going downhill. If they can’t afford a decent firework show as in the past, take that money and put it to use to make Peachtree city what it used to be. I miss Fred Brown as the Mayor – He did wonders for this city and kept it the way it was intended to be when the planning committee had their vision back in the late 50’s early 60’s. Also look at Money Magazine who now rates Peachtree city falling to number 91 from 8 for the “Best Place to Live”. What is happening here?
I know the old saying, if you don’t like it move. But why take the easy way out when so much can be done to take back PTC and have it the way it was intended and take a little pride with what we all call home.

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PHOTOS From The Fourth of July Parade

Dead grass or not, I think it was yet another successful parade:

http://www.kombatkamera.com/Events/Misc-Events/Peachtree-City-2012-Fourth-of/23975548_cqT9bT#!i=1945792286&k=3fvhS8s

Mike

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Parade/Fireworks, It's only once a year!

We can't help it that the thugs and trash coming from Clayton County and "Fayettedale" showed up. Do like we do...bring an extra trash bag with you and offer to pick some of it up on your way home. AS far as tarps....just moved the unused tarp, roll it up and set it under the tree and take your place! That's the American thing to do!

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Coweta plates?

I am sorry they offended you so. Wait, no I'm not! I can guarantee I had lived here longer than most of you.Thirty plus years prior to moving to Coweta. Just as an FYI, MOST of PTC's finest do not live in city limits as they cannot afford to. People like you and those with similar attitudes make PTC a dismal place. Wouldn't cross the county line for all the green grass in the world. Glad to hear that tags and dead grass are the worst problems you have. Perhaps you should volunteer with a group that helps to educate the dispicable Mexicans that you speak of. Perhaps a seminar on birth control would be right up your alley. I will be happy to let the higher ranking Peachtree City police officer in my family know just how much his or her tags offend you. I am sure they will feel oh so appreciated by yet another PTC resident.
Sincerely,
A happily relocated Coweta Co. resident

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Dead Grass

I agree PTC officials should eliminate the tarps. I thought the parade was great this year and I didn't see any candidates sitting in fancy cars, they were all out walking, shaking hands & handing out their info. Good job PTC on another great 4th celebration from beginning to end. Katie Wingo

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You think it looked trashy with all the tarps

laying all over town the past 3 or 4 days. Just wait until the morning of the 5th when you can see all the trash left behind after the fireworks display. If you can read this in English, thank a city worker tomorrow.

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Took my early morning walk this morning

and yes there was a lot of trash left behind. Even saw some women's lingerie lying in the grass. (someone had a good time). I also have lived here for 30 years and yes this years display was a little dissappointing, but 25-30 years ago, you were lucky if the display lasted 5 to 10 minutes, not to mention the parade which consisted of bicycles and maybe 5 or 10 vehicles. So....enjoy what you have....grab an adult beverage.....and chill.

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Thanking a City Worker

The City workers in PTC do a great job and are thanked every Payday!

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A wonderful parade

for the most part, it was a wonderful parade. My husband and I were discussing this very subject after the parade and both agreed that Peachtree City needs to implement a few changes next year including eliminating anyone from putting down tarps ahead of time, PERIOD!!. It was shocking to see the number of tarps which were laid out but never occupied.
I told my husband that I would be willing to contract with the city for ZERO dollars and come by every evening and pull up all the tarps which have been placed ahead of time along the parade route & by the lake. If you want a great spot to watch the parade, GROW A PAIR and get there early. Other cities across the nation take this approach so why should Peachtree City allow our city to be destroyed.
The second thing we believe needs to change is the start time. Starting the parade at 8:00am would assure the entire route was shaded most of the time but starting it at 8:30 at the latest would make a huge difference. Watching the last 30 minutes, I am sure that there were a bunch of those who were taking part in the parade itself would be quite appreciative of the earlier start time.
Third thing is the city needs to regulate what can be given away or at least how it is given. There were a few places giving away bottles of water, Great but throwing it from a moving vehicle. BAD IDEA. I would hate to think of what would have happened had one of those bottles of water hit a child or someone in the head. Small bouncy balls, BAD IDEA! Your throwing them one way only to have them bounce a whole a different way and come to a rest 50 feet down the road. Things such as this should be given away by actually handing it to someone.

Lastly, a note to those running for office of any kind. Your fancy car or truck is not going to win you my vote. Get off your a$$ and shake hands and meet the people. I commend Lynn Westmoreland for having the gutts to take this approach.

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Amen, SnowBunny, I have always thought it was stupid to let

people stake out their claims even one day earlier. Wonder what the area looked like to anyone checking out the area for possible relocation and how it will look now with all the dry grass--and it is also a fire hazard with our dry weather. I have attended parades for years, with and without youngsters. Get there early the day of the parade and find your spot. Also, clean up after yourself, if you insist on eating at the parade site rather than eating before venturing out. What's the big whoop about having a large garbage bag to put all your garbage in it AND TAK IT HOME WITH YOU, not leave it to further junk up the area. Again, regarding items thrown out from floats, I have been surprised that no one has ever been hurt. Water bottles thrown? Have someone walk along the route and hand them out or have someone wearing you logo at several points along the route to hand out the water if you want the free advertising. It is time they changed these things. We have a whole year to get the community used to the idea that there will be no 'saving' of spaces--and I will be glad to work free and join you to do away with anything anyone leaves to save their space.

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My husband suggested that

My husband suggested that maybe the city should consider taking a section of the route (we will just say from the beginning of the parade to Crosstown Rd) and sell reserved spots (let's say 10' wide) for $20. The same idea could used along the lake for the fireworks display. This would help put some needed money in the city to pay for such events and their clean-up.

I'll put your name on the list for next year ;-)

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Good idea, but you know if

Good idea, but you know if the city charges for spaces there will be a lynch mob ready for a hanging. I can hear the chants of argument now, "I pay enough in taxes why should I pay more for this". See dondols statement above.

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and this is why...

You set-up only a section of the parade & fireworks route. If you don't want to purchase a reserved space, you get your butt out of bed on the 4th and come and find a spot along the 'FREE' area of the route. This is nothing new and is done with many other parades & fireworks all over our country. The real problem we have is to many lazy individuals who do not want to get their butts out of bed and have to actually look for a spot. As I have said before, my family does not stake out our claim ahead of time. We show up about 10 minutes before the parade and have never had issues with finding a good viewing spot (toward the beginning of the route).
If the city were smart and implemented a system such as this, the additional monies raised from the sale of reserved spaces for both the parade and fireworks could then be used to fund a larger fireworks display.

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So, SB, how about running for council? I'll be your campaign

manager--. At least you have ideas and solutions, unlike a group on this site who know how to bash but offer no solutions. Think your idea is great, but would suggest that when anyone purchases a spot they will also agree to clean up after themselves or be charged a fee. A great idea also to have the funds collected go toward a larger display the following year. Shall I start getting the posters printed???

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Sorry, I'd never fit in...

As I have scruples and decency.. A good example of what I mean, My neighbor shared with me recently that a candidate running for Judge (I will not mention names since I did not receive the message first hand) has been spamming their e-mail as well as others using a class distribution list from their child's school. I could not even begin to consider doing something like that...

I like the idea of charging someone for clean-up but we then have to figure out to enforce it fairly. One way to help keep things clean is to restrict candy from being thrown from vehicles. I know this is a big part of the parade but if we really want to keep things clean then those in the parade need to do their part as well. And yes, I see no reason why monies should not go for a bigger and better display the following year.

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Ah, but SB, you could be the start of something new and fresh---

something greatly needed.

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Better yet, just sell tarp permits each year

$30 for the parade, $10 for fireworks. They can print them with a name and number, color code for either parade or fireworks, specify a maximum size and best of all - no tarps can appear until 12 noon on the 3rd for the parade and 12 noon on the 4th for the fireworks. $100 fine for violators.

Do the math - lot's of revenue, it favors residents over out of towners and takes one clerk at city hall collecting money and printing permits. Some techno geek could figure out a way to do it on the city website. Pay with credit card, print it out yourself.

And hotels and restaurants could buy them in bulk as an incentive for their customers.

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Nice idea but tarps come in all different styles, shapes, & sizes and that may cause issues You have person A with a small 6 x 8 tarp which is more than enough for their cart and family and you have Person B who figures I'm paying $30 so might as well go and get the 40x60 tarp and lay it out width way. Creating spaces will require more than just a clerk at city hall but a civic group such as Civitan or Rotary, etc. could offer to provide the labor to mark off the reserved spaces for a small cut of the take.

Your penalties were not stiff enough either - Placing a 'legal tarp' prior to 9pm on July 3 should be $100 fine, loss of permit, space, & tarp & inability to buy a new permit for 3 years. Placing an 'Illegal Tarp' should be $250 fine, loss of space & tarp, inability to buy a permit for 5 years, & 10 hours community service, picking up trash along that same stretch of road/path sounds good (Sheriff Joe Arpaio style works for me)

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Wow! Snow Bunny rocks. Have I got a deal for you.

You tough love style is fine with me. Better yet, I think the code enforcement job is still open at the city and best of all it is now under the police department. So a badge, maybe a gun, certainly one of those ATV's you could write more tickets on July 4th than a regular officer does all year. Go for it!

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Only if I can do it for 1 week

If I can do it for the first week of July each year, sign me up! It wouldn't be necessary though if the city were to outlaw this garbage. There are more than enough volunteers who would be willing to work for free to keep our city beautiful and insure all illegally place tarps are quickly removed & disposed of.

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Snow Bunny sale

Sorry, part of that section is already taken. I guess your hubby might have missed the muchacha baby mamas out there in force. One on each hip, strollers, toddlers, and of course, one in the oven. A gaggle of 'em, and they can't walk any farther than across the Parkway from Crimony Village.

On second thought, yes, sell that section..to the highest bidder.

Of course, 5 years from now, when they all become (presto!) legal citizens, they will have their own entry in the parade. I heard on of them say it will be named the "Obama Mamas Pride and Joy".

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mlc, 5 years from now it would be wise to have the mexican flag

concession as they will all want to show their allegiance to their homeland, as the Cubans do in South Florida.

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I agree

I had a latino family sit right on top of us at the fireworks and they brought 4 month old triplets that screamed the entire night!

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That's it. They were there tonight. City Hall, fireworks. Got there just at dusk, so didn't get to look around much. Fireworks started, big booms.

Immediately to my right, about 30 feet away, 3 mamasitas. 7 bambinos under the age of about 6. The minute the booms started, the baby started wailing. And did not stop for the first 15 minutes of the fireworks. Terrified. This kid was less than 6 months old.

Have you ever tried to enjoy the crackling and booming of fireworks with a kid screaming bloody murder nearby?

Not a male in the bunch. Probably back at the section 8 resort village slurping down the tequilas and waiting on the baby mamas to come home to make some more. Babies, that is.

Great fireworks. For a city of 34,000, we sure are lucky to have fireworks. I loved the little "burp" in the show at the end. That was too funny.

To get on the golf cart and travel at 5-10 mph on a warm summer night to see a show over the lake...priceless.

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Yes, we are fortunate to live here with the amenities. Let's

hope that we can continue to have them. Sad to say, it looks like more and more decay is setting in--at the risk of sounding like a disgruntled old fogie--it ain't what it used to be---and I wonder if there is any chance of it ever returning or is it gone forever?

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Hour and 15 minute Dead Grass Parade

Mark Rogers is right. These people pack up the SUV with canopies, tarps, blankets, 4 foot and 6 foot tables, tablecloths, dishes, chairs, umbrellas, and fans.

All for an hour and 15 minute parade. I traveled the length of the route at the end of the parade and thought I was at an out of town kid's sporting event where the family spends the whole day.

I saw multiple canopies, some 15 feet long or more, set up end to end, with 4 foot tables with tablecloths underneath with the most elaborate food display outside of any food festival in Atlanta. You can't feed the family before you get there?

Seriously, is this necessary? I saw multiple "vehicles" that weren't even registered in PTC. Weird versions of carts that have been altered so much, they don't even resemble carts. A guy driving a small tractor up the parkway with the kids on it, not plate, no registration.

McIntosh Trail was swamped with vehicles with Coweta plates heading for Hwy 74. Hope you all enjoyed the show. Oh wait, many of you were the show.

As usual, our city employees were wonderful. From police and fire and EMT's to public works to auxiliary, to parks & rec. and any others involved, thank you.

And to all those who spend numerous hot, hot hours this past week getting your float or ride or entry ready, thank you, thank you.

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MLC & The Parade

Face it, you've got a fair number of true dipsticks in PTC who only care about themselves--and it's not confined to July 4th. No known cure--it's a
learned trait, only ameliorated by relocation!

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July 4th tarps

PTC should just ban tarps, period - dot! Tell the people they can sit on their carts, stand or bring chairs. Just say "no" to tarps!

Saw a show this year in another state, no tarps allowed. People got there 2 hours early, set up & enjoyed! Show lasted 30 minutes! Best I've ever seen.

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