Wife of sup’t. gets $75K job via BoE

With the hiring of new Superintendent Joseph Barrow this year, the Fayette County School System also created a new high level position for his wife.

Dr. Susan Barrow was hired July 21 by the Board of Education to fill a newly created position: RTI and PBIS (Response to Intervention and Positive Behavior Intervention and Support) Specialist.

School system spokesperson Melinda Berry-Dreisbach said the position is one that Director of Exceptional Children’s Services Director Chris Horton has been working to bring online for some time due to the need for help in the area of increasing student achievement.

“The position was included in a list of recommendations generated by a committee of elementary school principals who were studying how to improve RTI and PBIS at the elementary level. Wenonah Bell, principal of Braelinn Elementary, chaired the committee,” Berry-Dreisbach said.

Mrs. Barrow will begin work with the school system with a salary of $75,554 based on her qualifications, a Ph.D. and 14 years experience.

Mrs. Barrow’s position is on the teacher salary schedule rather than the administrative salary scale, Berry-Dreisbach said.

Barrow will be stationed at the Lafayette Education Center (LEC) and will report to School Improvement and Professional Learning Director Rae Presley-King.

School board Chairman Marion Key said other positions exist within the school system which have staff on the teacher salary schedule stationed in areas such as LEC or central office.

Pertaining to hiring family members of the superintendent, Berry-Dreisbach said there is no policy in place about the hiring of family members, or specifically, that of the superintendent. She noted that former superintendents John DeCotis and Jeff Bearden also had spouses teaching in the county.

A sampling of Mrs. Barrow’s responsibilities in the new job include identifying and coordinating training, developing and presenting staff training in data collection, progress monitoring, interventions and mentoring; providing program evaluation through analysis of school data; working with administrators and teachers to develop system-wide PBIS practice and ensure continued implementation; assisting teachers in interpreting assessment data; and coordinating a continuous assessment and accountability system.

Berry-Dreisbach said the board on July 21 also decided to leave vacant the position of director of elementary school improvement/professional learning, which had been vacant and left unfilled since October 2012.

“(The position) was left unfilled due to budgetary constraints, but was not removed because of the need to have someone in this position to help elementary principals and educators continue to improve and enhance instruction at the elementary level. The intent was to fill this position in the future once the budget was stabilized. Kim Herron, formerly the principal at Fayetteville Elementary, was hired for the position,” said Berry-Dreisbach.

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If you haven't tried it, recommend Azul Tequila in PTC which offers much more than the normal "Tex-Mex " menu. And that cold Dos Equis Lager is very good.

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Thanks, Gym, maybe it's time we all got together in the evening-

been a long time and that sounds like it might be the perfect spot. thanks again

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Mymite & AHG and others

Here's another suggestion. Due South has buffalo (fried) gator tail on it's appetizer menu. $14.00 with ranch dressing.

Anyone ever had that? Hey, if you have, why would you??

For a beverage, a golf cartini...peach infused vodka, peach schnapps, pineapple and orange juice.....$9.50. And a buff male or female (your choice) golf cart designated driver for your trip home...tips only. ha

http://www.duesouthptc.com/menu.php

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mlc,Gators and I have an agreement. I won't bother them if they

promise not to bother me. Coming from South Fla I am very familiar with Gators and Gator on menus. Always get a kick out of people saying it tastes just like chicken. Seems like everything tastes like chicken. My thinking is, if it taste like chicken why not just eat chicken. Gators are great in their own habitat and that is where I want them to stay. Love to see them in the Everglades, etc. but not on my dinner plate--same way with frog legs. Those little froggies never did anything to me so I have no reason to have them go to that great Pond in the sky just so I can tell people they taste like chicken. If the truth be known I am not that fond of chicken so that statement doesn't make my mouth water. Now the alcohol beverages are a different matter --doubt if any carts were injured in the making of the cartinis--but I personally prefer margaritas!

BTW: How is Due South? Went there once about a year and half ago and was not impressed with food and service was terrible. Has it gotten better?

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Mytmite-I have

never been to Due South. I have heard mixed opinions from different friends. Guess others have mixed experiences, too. I was given a twenty dollar gift card by someone and was looking at their online menu to see what they have and came across the gator and that stopped me dead in my tracks. I, like you (although not from South Fla) think frogs and gators just need to stay in the water where they come from. Too many other things I can choose to eat without going into swampy water to get it. They have taken over that Lattitude 22 or whatever it was called upstairs and now rent it out to groups/banquets, etc. From what I have read here, seems they might be headed due south, if you get my drift. I do think the golf cartini sounds good. Maybe it should become the official cocktail of Peachtree City. Get a copyright or a patent and serve it at the welcome center or at all official city events, something like that.

I did have a great lunch yesterday. Went to Pita by the Beirut at Braelinn Shopping Center (across from Johnny's Pizza and next to the UPS store). I have been by there hundreds of times and always wanted to stop, so finally did. Had a great gyro (with gyro beef, lettuce, tomato, onion and tzatziki sauce) with sauteed veggies on the side. The place was busy as could be. Moms with kids, business people (lots of NCR name badges), blue collar workers, some ethnics, and looked like college kids studying while lunching. Great mix and the help behind the counter were really friendly and worked fast. You order at the counter and they will bring to your table. Inside and outside dining.

When we were finishing, the owner even came over to ask how we liked everything. That was impressive. He was a young guy, wanted to know if we have been to the Kedron location (not yet) or to the Newnan one (nope). He said they are looking to expand even more. There was lots on the menu I would like to try, too. Sure beats the fast food places and the national franchised eateries. Oh, and for dessert got some baklava to take home. Delicious. Some might be put off by the mediterranean name, but just ask questions about things on the menu and they were very good about explaining things to us. Nothing fancy, but really good, fresh food (the gyros are a little messy when the pita gets a little soggy, but it's a tasty messy) sauteed veggies were really good, too. I was glad to see the place so busy. Tells me they are doing well there and hopefully will stay around awhile. They have a rewards card, too. Not fine dinner dining, but well worth a lunch or even take out.

http://pitabythebeirut.com/

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mlc, et al, need your help finding Mexican pastries in area.

Do any of you know of a mexican bakery or restaurant which carries mexican pastries that I could buy-about a dozen to two dozen?

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Funny you should ask. I needed the same a few years ago and I first tried the shop on Willowbend. They told me they would place an order but when I went back to pick it up no one had a clue what I was talking about. So, in a pinch, I remembered out in Newnan, 211 Bullsboro Dr., there is a bakery called Panaderia (bakery) Juquilita. They are on the left, in a small shopping center not too far after the intersection to go over to Ashley Park shopping. They had a good bakery and were able to give me what I needed. I looked up their phone #770-253-2862. They mostly speak Spanish, but do have someone there who speaks English, just ask.

I know it's quite far, and maybe by now there is one here, but that is the only one I know of. Hope this helps.

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Thanks if there is not one here I will make the trip. Were you

satisfied with what you got there? I can speak some spanish so it may come in handy.. I may run down there this week-end just to see what they have. thanks again .

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I picked out

what I wanted..it was Mexican breakfast pastries, kind of like danish. I do not remember what they were, I used the advice of the woman who waited on me. I think they were sweet breads with sugar and cinnamon (conchas?), but don't hold me to that. My brain chooses to only remember certain facts and this doesn't seem to be on the list. I did not have one, they were boxed up and plastic wrapped right there. It was for some workers who had done some work for me and I wanted to thank them on the last day with a breakfast. The workers seemed to be happy with them and thanked me. So, yes, I was happy with them and I hope they were, too. You know, I lived in Spain for 3 years as a child, we had a maid/housekeeper/cook, too. I cannot for the life of me remember what she cooked for breakfast, other than great Spanish omelettes with potatoes and ketchup, lots of ketchup. Funny how the mind works. Good luck.

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mlc, maybe churros?

I think that is correct spelling. They are covered with cinnamon and not really too sweet. I saw the recipe on the Pillsbury's site but sure they are not same. Will definitely look for that place if none in ptc. again, thanks

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Es possible

y de nada..hasta luego!

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MLC, Y USTED TAMBIEN

Mucho gracias por toda las cosas. Yo le gusta mucho.

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MLC & The Beirut

Haven't been to "The Pita" but have been to the actual "The Beirut" and really liked it. There you can get some wine to wash down the tasty Lebanese eats. Also had some take-out from there but that wasn't as good.

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Sounds good. You are right, no vino at The Pita. Am finding the differences as I go along. Thanks.

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mlc, thanks, did not know there was an eatery over there. Do not

go to the Braelin area but will definitely try this place. Sounds interesting. thanks

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We went twice

We went twice in the past 6 months. The first without reservations on a Saturday and had to wait 20 minutes. The second time we made reservations.

We enjoyed the meal, service and atmosphere both times. But we've become easy to please when we can eat slowly without the kids, lol.

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I also have had good experiences there...

I have been numerous times and it is always good. Their burger is hard to beat and they have tall boy PBR's.

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two weeks ago friend reported that after waiting 20 minutes they gave up and left. place was not busy and the staff was standing around. Since this was their second bad experience it's apparent there is a problem.

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SPQR, that was the same thing I experienced. We were a rather

large group but we had made a reservation. Other than one other table of four that came in after us, we were the only ones there. That table got it's food before we did. Some at our table got their food while others waited so long that some were finished eating. I had ordered an appetizer that should have come out almost immediately--I had to ask about it three different times and when I did get it it was cold, which indicated it had been sitting up there waiting to be picked up. Also, there was a lot of hanging around by employees talking to each other and not paying attention to customers. And then one of my pet peeves, when it was tip time they were falling all over themselves asking if we wanted more coffee, anything else, etc. Noo, I was ready to leave after waiting at least fifteen minutes for a coffee refill that I was told would be fortcoming and appeared when we were ready to leave. Food was not that great to undergo the aggrivation so have not been back.

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MYTMITE - DueSouth

I have been there a number of times both for business and personal, inconsistency both in terms of food quality and service has proven too much for loyalty. I have not been back there for months now. If you go to Chick Fil A, you know the quality and service is consistent, a BIG plus for return customers.

This is hard to heal by DueSouth once bitten.

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Top-down BS

'nuff said.

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Lesson to BOE on Independence

On certified audits, CPAs are required to be not only independent, with no conflicts of interests, but to avoid giving the appearance of not being independent. The Board of Education should adopt a similar ethics policy, if it values its image and the public trust.

Independence and Public Perception: Why We Need to Care
Fact or appearance—both are indispensable.

...it is vital to the audit function that a CPA engaged in an attestation be independent of the client both in fact and in appearance. Independence in both fact and appearance is also crucial to maintaining professional autonomy and the high esteem in which the profession is held.

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arrogance

The worst part is the arrogance demonstrated by the BOE and Barrow. It's a we can doe whatever we da** well please. They know this is wrong. They know there will be an outcry. They could care less.

And yes PTCO it is obviously a kind of
quid pro quo

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Asumptions - SPQR

No SPQR, when citizens are voted into office it is in the belief that they are honorable and virtuous people. The best among us. It is assumed that these candidates are well vetted by their respective parties as having the highest standards of ethical and moral character. It is assumed that they will protect the integrity of the departments in which they are entrusted. Because they are ethical and virtuous they in turn will hire people that have the high standards that voters expect. As voters we believe that they would not want in anyway to have their personal integrity questioned because they are so virtuous.

Given this action by our BOE, it appears our assumptions are all wrong.

I suppose that most people presented with a similar alternative that benefits their own family would overlook the ethics, integrity involved and the lapse of leadership. So, perhaps the BOE simply represents the masses and we shouldn't expect a higher standard from our elected officials.

“Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity trust upon them.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

We merely need to decide which alternative represents these fine people.

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You are smarter than that PTCO

How long has it been since parties actually went out and recruited the best amoung us? All parties are lazy these days. They accept everyone because they like the dues. That's why many people don't get involved. We have a Tea Party in FC that endorces people who try to skip paying taxes and declare bankrupsey. And these folks win. We've had people run for office who have checkered pasts and the Republican Party didn't check them out and if so, failed. The same with the democrats.

We have folks who run and approve their own pay increases within weeks of taking office.

Yes, we have a few who run for the right reasons, but they are few and far between.

Politics and politicians haven't been honorable and virtuous in years.

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Yes H&F - I see

things the way they should be not the way they are. I suppose I am an 18th Century man in this respect. President Eisenhower had it exactly right.

"The supreme quality for leadership is unquestionably integrity. Without it, no real success is possible, no matter whether it is on a section gang, a football field, in an army, or in an office."

I am very aware of how things actually are H&F and your defense of the status quo. You like many others seem to justify the end no matter the means. In your case expediency is far more important than honor, leadership and integrity as long as we "relieve" overburdened teachers of special needs children. At least this is what I interpreted in your earlier posts, or am I misinterpreting this?

The fact is if we don't demand integrity from ourselves how can we demand it from our elected officials?

Tell me how I have it wrong H&F. Is this what you want for your children? Expediency over integrity? I don't think so, you're more honorable than that.

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If you saw the mountains of paperwork

These teachers must produce, you would understand. Sometimes I wonder how much actual teaching occurs when I see the reams of paper handed to me at parent teacher conferences. Every issue is documented to the day and minute. Multiply this by the number of students in the class and one could understand.

Sitting in conferences year after year hearing that the resources are limited, but my kid doesn't quite qualify for more help is frustrating as a parent. So, I am happy with a new hire that could help. Anyone with a PHD and experience is better than what we have now. So, in this case, yes, I'm going to be selfish and applaud the hiring of the position.

I don't care if it's the supts PHD wife or someone else, as long as I see the position allows more classroom help. Until it is proven that the supt or his wife circumvented the hiring procedures or broke some rule against spouses working in the system, then I'm just going have to be hopeful that this position helps my and other children.

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@ H&F

In 19 years of teaching sped ed (15 in this county) I have NEVER found that the creation of a county-level position lightened my paperwork load, ever. The spec ed teacher is responsible for all paperwork associated with his/her caseload, period. Unfortunately, for you and your child, I don't think this is going to give the teacher more time to work with the children.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, this isn't a spec ed position, it's reg ed, is it not? And, again, if I'm not mistaken, isn't the purpose to come up with a "better, more efficient way" to collect data on kids in Tiers 1-3? And that would be the reg ed teachers.

job description - Identifying and coordinating training, developing and presenting staff training in data collection, progress monitoring, interventions and mentoring; providing program evaluation through analysis of school data; working with administrators and teachers to develop system-wide PBIS practice and ensure continued implementation; assisting teachers in interpreting assessment data; and coordinating a continuous assessment and accountability system.

By the time a kid hits Tier 4 they are usually tested and put in spec ed and the spec ed teacher already is quite knowledgeable in progress monitoring, collecting and interpreting data and implementing interventions.

Again, unfortunately, I don't think this is going to create more time for the spec ed teachers to work with their students.

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sorry

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Wildcat/ H&F

My son has an IEP for reading and math. His first grade teacher noticed something wasn't right and although the county did not think testing was appropriate, we paid for private testing. What was found is that he has a processing disorder where the information is up there but he has trouble finding it in what is deemed a normal amount of time. He has had some great teachers who have helped him come far and we are greatful to them. If this position helps develop tools to help identify kids and help them faster this would be great, however we do not need more paper.

I have often been amazed at the amount of paper and rigor that goes into these IEP meetings. If However, as my wife is a teacher at Sandy Creek where they have the county has concentrated a number of high school special ed programs, I worry that this position will generate more work for teachers to justify the positon further taking from the students. As we already know we often pull our teachers out for meetings during the day, creating more work for teachers and less reources for the class in general. How will this position help?

My experience with this program is mostly great, however, we did have a problem with one teacher who was not as concerned with Jackson's IEP mostly around allowing extra time. As I have been told, I am not a helicopter parent but a helicopter gunship parent. When we got the IEP meeting, we not only had the usual suspects, but the parent advocate, County math coordinator, and a few others from the cenral office. Needless to say it got fixed. But we know others whose children are struggling and not on an IEP who are not getting addressed and are starting to hate school. These parents often lack a dispassionate position to go to like I used the county advocate. If this position is reg ed, can it help with that? Again no more paper we need help for the teachers.

Probably more than you wanted to know.

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The article says that she reports to the director of Exceptional Childrens services and will be working with behavioral intervention and support.

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@ H&F-reread

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Barrow will be stationed at the Lafayette Education Center (LEC) and will report to School Improvement and Professional Learning Director Rae Presley-King.

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Then, H&F

There is no reason to continue this dialog.

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I guess not PTCO

I have to pick my battles.

Guess, according to your rulebook (which I respect and not in disagreement) no one should vote for any incumbent city council member, and all should be against the commissioner whose wife works at Pinewood.

If there was a policy in place to prohibit family members, I would agree with you. However there does not appear to be any policy in place at this time to prohibit this.

Until such time that someone brings this to the attention of all local government officials to develop a policy, there is nothing we can do.

Sometimes in small towns, you can't get away from this.

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H&F - You seem

to miss the inescapable fact that his wife will report to him through the chain of command and she will direct others below her. The analogy you use on Pinewood is not comparable at all.

Now I will be a bit over the top to support my point, OK?

There was a policy in Nazi Germany to exterminate the Jews, there was no policy not to. I hope you can see that your logic is flawed? The fact that a policy exists or doesn't exist makes no difference. It is principle, ethics, integrity, honor and leadership that is at question here not the absence of policy. That's a bureaucratic cop out.

Is the current state of affairs in the political arena what we want to teach our children? That it's ok as long as there's no policy to the contrary? Do we want "leaders" like these in charge of our children's character development? Where do we draw the line on principle H&F? If we marginalize everything, then anything is game, even killing innocent people. After all there's no policy against it.

This entire episode is repulsive, just like the last two times the BOE did it. There is no justification for it based on principles.

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PTCO -Great Expecations (not)

I'll have to work on these unrealistic expectations. It's just a recipe for angst.

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SPQR - Indeed

indeed SPQR, we live in interesting times.

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Based on many of these comments

It is obvious that many here have never worked with family.....consider yourself lucky.

That said, i am on the fence on this hire...I can see both sides...it surely raises eyebrows.

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Wife of Supt gets $75K job

The Board of Education members are to blame for this mess. The Boards duty is to set Policy and obey all Federal and State Laws. In absence of State Law, local BOE Policy governs. Don't blame the new employee. Tell your Board member.

The Fayette County Board of Education has long had a creditability issue.
They ask the tax payers to pay 20 mills in property tax (maximun), continue to pay off old bond issues and vote for one SPLOST after another only to waste and spend money on non-critical issues. Schools are closed, teachers and staff dismissed, no raises etc. We finally change some Board members and things start to look better. Now here we go again.

To the members of the Fayette County Board of Education. Get some competent legal and State DOE advise and re-write your Policies. Correctly govern the District and its employees. Quit micro managing the District. We are watching your actions and yes we will VOTE!

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Again

So once again FCBOE makes a dumbo move... Recall around 5 years ago, then Supt. Bearden's girlfriend at the time had a position created for her. That position did not exist before her arrival and did not exist the next year when she was given a homeroom. BTW that particular homeroom she received pushed out a veteran teacher to a different grade level.

As a teacher, I do not see the value in the position created for Mrs. Barrow. I am quite capable of collaborating with my fellow teachers when it comes to RTI data collection and the process of moving through the RTI levels.

Two questions... does the BOE think we are that blind to the nepotism at hand and how long do we continue to allow it?

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BOE Spouse

Wrong Wrong Wrong! If this position was put out there for others to apply for and she was the best candidate, it would be a different story. It sounds like this was not the case. Should have been handled differently. As far as the other Superintendents spouses, I don't think they were handed a high level job.

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What a Crock

This position was a created in the 2008 Strategic Plan as a "coordinator" position. RTI and PBIS is largely administered at the school level and doesn't require a PhD at the county level by any stretch of the imagination. It's not hard to see what happened here, no matter how hard they try to spin it.

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Just not a good start

It would of been fine to hire your qualified wife for an existing vacancy in the system (ie a job that has been there for many years that needed to be filled). It's just that a brand new position was created that pays pretty well for a government position and you, running the show, on taxpayers dollars... right after you let a bunch of young college grad 20 somethings go because of lack of budget funding etc... just looks bad. This is something I would expect from Clayton or Dekalb... not Fayette.

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THIS IS WRONG!

With the hiring of new Superintendent Joseph Barrow this year, the Fayette County School System also created a new high level position for his wife.

How many ways are there to say THIS IS WRONG!!!!

Pertaining to hiring family members of the superintendent, Berry-Dreisbach said there is no policy in place about the hiring of family members, or specifically, that of the superintendent. She noted that former superintendents John DeCotis and Jeff Bearden also had spouses teaching in the county.

TIME TO DEVELOP AN ETHICS PLAN FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BOARD.

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Trader - Read it again

There is a need and was reinforced by the principals on the ground. If she's the best qualified than we dont have an issue. Though I cannot believe that the county does not have policies in place.

School system spokesperson Melinda Berry-Dreisbach said the position is one that Director of Exceptional Children’s Services Director Chris Horton has been working to bring online for some time due to the need for help in the area of increasing student achievement.

“The position was included in a list of recommendations generated by a committee of elementary school principals who were studying how to improve RTI and PBIS at the elementary level. Wenonah Bell, principal of Braelinn Elementary, chaired the committee,” Berry-Dreisbach said.

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It's Not Hard to See Through This One

The Strategic Plan, titled "Fayette Vision", that the school system developed identified a need for an "Assessment Coordinator" and an "RTI Task Force". You can view the county's strategic plan at their website, www.fcboe.org. It's pretty fishy that a "committee" was formed and then discovered a need for a "Specialist" position despite the guidance of the strategic plan.

Let's discuss the salary. The "Coordinator" position identified in the strategic plan has a median salary of about $23,000. It might be expected that in order to hire the right kind of talent, that you would upgrade the position. So let's look at specialist positions. Fayette County Schools pays a median salary of $59k for specialist positions. The $75k salary offered to start puts Mrs Barrow in the 90th percentile. Essentially, the pay package allows her to leap-frog more seasoned individuals. Salary information is public record, and can be downloaded at open.georgia.gov.

Let's discuss ethics, specifically professional ethics. You do not need a stated policy to recognize nepotism. Any responsible leader is capable of recognizing that a conflict of interest arises when you have the spouse of an executive level personality seeking a highly paid position within that same organization. The Georgia Department of Education does have a policy in place. Rule 160-5-1-.36(5)(a)3. It specifically forbids Dr Barrow from holding his position if his wife is employed on his administrative staff.

I'm not sure why Berry-Dreisbach thought it was important point out that Wenonah Bell was the chairperson of the committee. While it's been years since my oldest was at Braelinn, I do recall talk of her being near retirement. I would hate to think that she is being set up to take the fall for this. I would speculate that she - just like every other employee of the school system - knows what is expected of them when it comes to favors for family members.

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Who would it serve H&F?

It would serve the integrity of the superintendent, at the very least, which in the end serves the children and taxpayers of the county.

Leadership H&F, is based on the foundation of personal integrity. I personally would not sacrifice mine for something like this, but I suppose honor is scant these days, especially when it impacts something as important as your pocketbook.

Justify it if you will, it cannot be moved based on principles.

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You're the boss.

Your kids are of the age they don't need a parent home after school and your Phd wife wants to return to the job force.

You have an opening and get resumes from all over and your wife applies and is more qualified than everyone else and you know you can trust that she will do a great job.

Do you tell your wife that though she's the best qualified, she can't have the job because you're afraid of what people might think?

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H&F - not exactly

Not not exactly, I would not offer her the job because it brings into question both the integrity of the process that I administrate, and both our credibility and honesty is considerably more valuable than the perceived opportunity. That the mission integrity and teamwork among the staff is essential to educating children. Therefore, as boss, I would not hire her into any administrative position in order protect this mission. Now, if she wanted to be hired as an entry level teacher that had no one reporting to her, I would consider it.

I hope this answers your question.

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Fair enough

I understand your logic and don't disagree.

But your strong willed, independent wife doesn't agree.

She files a lawsuit claiming that there are no rules that prohibit spouses from working and she was the best candidate. Then she takes the county to the cleaners when its proven she was the best candidate.

Yes, integrity is intact, but is it worth it?

(I know, I'm stretching, but it has probably happened somewhere) lol

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H&F - I would

simply resign, there are things more important than money......I then would begin divorce proceedings against a wife that didn't understand the difference between integrity and ego.

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Position created for Superintendent's wife

Last year, some schools were shut down (including Tyrone and Brooks Elementary schools). More than 200 positions (maybe it was 300) were elmininated from the school system. Now, the superintendent's wife has a position created for her??? This is inexcusable. Class sizes have increased dramatically. All of us have read that Fayette County teacher pay is still well below the metro Atlanta average. Yet, there is money is create an unneeded position?????

This issue is not about qualifications or nepotism. It is about the creation of a position that has never existed in the past. It is about a position that is unnessary. It is one that will merely create more work for teachers and school staff.

Teachers in this county will tell you that county office personnel create work for others to justify their own jobs. This new position will help no one except the Barrow family. These issues have been handled by others in the past. We don't need a new educrat to do them. This is failed leadership on the part of the superintendent. Seems he cares more about himself than what is best for the school district.

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Extra work.

More work is created for the teachers by the State. The locals certainly do. All of it takes time away from the students. Most school administrators are great. They just deal with with the same crap filtered down from above.

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wkamb - Terrific

points on this debacle by the BOE. If Mr. Barrow wants to do it right, he will find a job for his wife in another county. Otherwise, he begins with a team that questions his integrity. I don't think I would want to be in that position as a leader.

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Nepotism Reigns in Fayette County

There is no way this should have been allowed. It does not matter that she may be the most qualified it has EVERYTHING to do with the hiring of her husband and the power he yields in that position.

Come on BOE you can do better than this.

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Deja vu

Didn't something like this happen with our previous Super?

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Nepotism.

Here we go again. A waste of money when classrooms are due to be beyond full this year.

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Aliquando & Nepotism

You got any proof that the lady hired was NOT the best qualified of all applicants? No? Didn'tthink so. You just want to throw rocks at the BOE without justification--shame on you!

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AHG-It's a matter of Integrity

It has been my experience in business that you usually have more than one fully qualified applicant for a position. So when a position is created and then filled in this manner it reeks of nepotism. She, as the spouse of the super, should not even be eligible for a position with the FCBOE. Especially at a time when this school system has been through a financial crisis, being forced to close schools and lay off employees. It's just a matter of integrity.

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G35 & Integrity

I understand your position but hey WE elected this board and if a majority (by District, that is, doesn't think they do a good job, they they're out next election cycle--til then, unless they can be shown to break some law(s), whining won't change a thing. And the Super wasn't involved in the selection, way I read it. And unless his persona is so huge and overpowering, no way he could influence a majority of the Board.

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AHG - If

he had any honor, he would:

1) Tell his wife that she should turn the job down and apply for a job further down the chain, where she would not be directing any personnel in the chain of command. So, an entry level position with no hope of advancement beyond that while he is Superintendent would be appropriate.

2) Failing this, if she still took the job then he should resign.

The BOE members that can't see this as wrong should be voted out of office. Actually, I can't even believe that this is being debated, it's so crystal clear. The only thing I can think is there was some kind of quid pro quo agreement if he took the job. If this is so, why would we want him over our school system or a board that would agree to such a thing?

That's what I think, but what the heck.....honor's dead.

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PTCO & AHG

Actually I think this is part of the pay package. If you remember DeCotis and wife had a similar arrangement as did Beardon and girlfriend. And this happened under different BOE reins. Fixing this would require much more than just electing new board members.

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Basing it on experience as a

Basing it on experience as a Fayette County resident for 36 years and knowing people in and retired from the school system. You have to admit it does not pass the "eye" test. When John Decotis was Supt. he was seen regularly in schools. That has not been the case with the new guy. Do you have any proof she is the best qualified applicant. Is her degree an EDD or A PhD? My wife has a PhD and there is a huge difference.

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Gym, Nepotism defined and this situation

Nepotism: "the practice among those with power or influence of favoring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs." Is this the case with this hire? Who knows? The people in power will never say it, just as NBC will never state that Chelsea Clinton isn't a fabulous journalist who is worth $50,000 a segment but was hired to curry favor from her parents? Regardless of how this hire and this position, created as it seems to be, was filled doesn't really matter. What does matter is that it looks bad. It looks like a further corruption of our education board and its processes. And the bottom line in it is that a new to-the-job superintendent felt comfortable enough for this to happen in this manner. Like the entire process is untouchable.

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Wedge - Exactly right

You're exactly right, and I may add that the question of her qualifications is not the question. The question is could they have found someone equally or better qualified without this taint? What's the rush?

I think we know the answer to this question. She now ultimately reports to her husband at work, how is this the "right" thing for Fayette County Schools?

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It's right

If she was the best qualified, then it doesn't matter.

My wife helps on occasion in the special needs classes. The teachers work their butts off and could use some administrative help.

It appears her appointment was brought to the attention of the board and approved on the up and up.

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H&F (tacos)

Did you mention the little Mexican market just East of The Publix on 54 a while back? The little restaurant in the back of the store has amazing food. If you still go in there look for the health dept. certificate.

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Tacos--

Just where is this place located? Are you talking about the Publix next to Steinmart or the one in Newnan? Can't remember seeing a Mexican store near the one in PTC but then I am not the most observant person at times.

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MTM

Steinmart. Just East of the Ace Hardware store.

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THANKS----

Never noticed it there. Love good mexican food----maybe I'll take a little trip over there. thanks again.

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Steinmart. Just East of the Ace Hardware store.

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Ditto that MYTMITE

I don't have a clue on the location, is it Tyrone? PTC? Fayetteville?

Sounds good though, there's one in Fairburn like that in the CVS plaza. In the back of a Hispanic grocery store.

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Old shopping cennter

It's in the old shopping center just east of the true value hardware store. Same shopping center as that new pawnshop

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Even easier to find

Look for the neon yellow sign up above that screams "WAXY's VAPE SHOP". Same upscale retail neighborhood. You know, the kind that Dar wants to annex in to the city.

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Tacos (SPQR)

I take it, its not so good.
Thanks for the heads up.

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H&F

The food is great. Just couldn't find their health certificate

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Health Certificate - Inspection

For some unknown reason, the movie line "we don't need no stinkin…" from "Treasure of the sierra madre -" keeps coming up in my mind.

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Tienda Y Carniceria La Esperanza?

Butcher shop, grocery and restaurant? They fall under the Ga. Food Safety Division of the Ga. Dept. of Agriculture.

If you Yelp them, there are 7 photos there, looks pretty spiffy to me. Never been there, though.

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I don't know about spiffy. Its reminiscent of walking down a dirt road in a small Mexican town and going into a market or eatery. Simple,non pretentious but clean. The food is what you would expect in said small town and is hands down better than your typical north of the border ground beef burrito.

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Husband & Father

I am not sure I follow your logic, in my mind it matters a lot because 1) it looks really bad and raises all kinds of credibility questions concerning the judgment of the BOE, 2) There's no rush to find someone to fill a non-existent job, 3) There are plenty of teachers, academics looking for work, 4) I am certain a better qualified person could be found that isn't related to the head of the school system. Perhaps at a lower price.

The question of need for such a position is also important, given the title it sounds a bit trumped up to me, but I would have to see the job description to understand exactly the objectives of the job. Government education what it is, it is always a bit suspect anyway. I really good math teacher could be a lot more productive perhaps.

Thanks to your wife, she helps in important work.

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PTCO - read the article again please

A committee was formed to address an issue important to the teachers on the ground helping the students at need. Having someone to support the teachers across the schools is vital for proper placement and the sharing of ideas to help at risk students especially in the early years. The position also reports to someone other than the supt.

I'm sure the school can scour the countryside to find someone with a better education, better instructor, and will do the job for less money. But at what cost and time? I'm quite sure that the position was posted correctly and evaluated. Perhaps the lady was heads and tails better than everyone. Do we say no, when we possibly have the best? Who would that serve?

The fact is that there is no rule that prohibits spouses.

I don't know the lady, but I have met Dr. Barrow and think he is doing a fine job and respect his decision making. In fact, I would support a raise to mirror the county administrator. His position is equally as important to our community and he is responsible for a bigger budget.

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Husband and Father, I hope that she is an exemplary employee

because realistically, would any boss of hers be willing to provide performance reviews or even constructive criticism if her boss two levels up is the superintendent? She has a job for the tenure of her husband at least. Like I stated earlier, it doesn't pass the smell test. It looks bad. Why do it?

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BOE syndrom

Something apparently happens to folks when they become BOE members. Their ability to VET potential superintendents flies away. No Matter. Within a year or so they will likely negotiate a non disclosure with a gratuitous years salary and a new search will begin. Candidates must have a girlfriend, partner, or spouse willing to take a made up position with no actual production requirements.

It appears to me that one of the posters on this topic may have (excuse the expression)a dog in the fight.

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If you are referring to me

Yes, I have a child with special needs that would benefit from this position being filled. The teachers are great, but the mandated paperwork prevents them from doing more and I know they want to do more too.

This position, approved by the elementary principals will help those teachers on the ground do their jobs better.

Seeing what goes on in these classrooms, I can simply say $75K is not enough for the stuff they have to put up with. And yes, that includes my kids behavior at times.

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H&F It's

not to position need, it's the principle involved in the selection. Don't need to repeat logic on this, just thought I would jump in here on the "need" for the position. I don't know enough to know if it's needed but on the selection process and selection, I have a problem with it.

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Understood PTCO

I understand and respect your position. I might see it that way to, if not for my selfish wish for the additional help the special needs kids could use.

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H&F

Instead of building that unnecessary breezeway at McIntosh they could have funded a team to work with special needs kids in the trenches. Instead they allowed the new superintendent to garner disrespect with a blatant act of nepotism. I can't imagine the special needs kids getting much benefit from one additional central office staffer. Now if she rolls up her sleeves and does hands on??

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