Qualifying so far: 5 in F’ville, 4 in Tyrone, 0 in PTC

It’s put-up-or-shut-up time for municipal candidates in three Fayette cities this week. To be on the ballot this fall, candidates in Fayetteville, Tyrone and Peachtree City have to file official paperwork and pay qualifying fees this week.

In Fayetteville, those qualifying by noon on Aug. 30 included two candidates for the Post 1 seat and two candidates for the Post 2 seat. Also qualifying again for mayor was incumbent Ken Steele.

The Post 1 seat for the Fayetteville City Council has incumbent Wilson Price qualifying along with educator and pastor Edward Johnson.

The Post 2 council seat qualifiers as of noon on Aug. 30 had marketing director Cathy Cochran signing up to run against businessman Mickey Edwards. Incumbent Al Hovey-King had not qualified as of noon.

Qualifying in Fayetteville runs through this Wednesday, Aug. 31.

In Tyrone there are three seats to be decided by voters, including mayor and the Post 1 and Post 2 Town Council seats.

As of 1:30 p.m. on Aug. 30, Post 2 Councilman Eric Dial qualified to run for mayor.

The qualifier for the Post 1 seat was bookkeeper Linda M. Howard. Incumbent Tracy Young had not qualified by press time.

Post 2 qualifiers included career consultant Pota Coston and manager Ryan Housley.

Qualifying in Tyrone runs through this Friday, Sept. 2.

Although three candidates have announced they will run for seats on the Peachtree City Council, no one has bothered to officially fill out the paperwork as of lunchtime Tuesday.

The deadline for qualifying to run is 4:30 p.m. Friday.

Up for election are the Post 1 council seat held by Eric Imker and the Post 2 council seat held by Doug Sturbaum. Imker has said he will seek re-election while Sturbaum is declining to run again.

Also joining the fray are two political newcomers: Smokerise resident Scott Brown, who will be seeking the Post 2 seat, and Robinson Woods resident George Dienhart, who is running against Imker.

The qualifying fee is $180 and candidates must be at least 21 years old, be a qualified voter in the city and have continuously lived in the city for at least six months immediately prior to the election.

Anyone with questions about the qualifying process may email City Clerk Betsy Tyler at info@peachtree-city.org.

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Haddix - Go away

Don't you have a ribbon cutting to go to?

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Haddix: Candidates

I am aware of a second candidate for Tyrone Mayor and one for Mayor in Fayetteville, but cannot confirm they filed.

For PTC here are the official candidates:

Post 1
Steve Allen
Eric Imker (Incumbent)

Post 2
Scott Brown
George Dienhart

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Why?

Why would anyone run for public office in this county? Read these blogs then answer if you choose to.

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MadMike - George Dienhart

MadMike:

Did Mr. Dienhart answer your question? If he is in fact the mayor's choice, we need to get that word out because anyone associated with this mayor needs to be routed out!

Let us know.

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ptcrightnow - Dienhart

I have heard from two separate people who are closer to the situation than me that Dienhart was the Mayor's candidate to replace his mini-me, Sturbaum.
I would like to confirm or dismiss it as well and let Dienhart give us his thoughts.
In his announcement editorial (online) i have asked him directly if he would tell us if he supports the censure measure of the Mayor and also if he could give us his opinion on the mayor's performance thus far. So far he has not answered.
I know for me and many others, this is a defining point in the council race. I cannot support another candidate that is going to do nothing but kowtow to the Mayor and his self-serving activities and attitudes.
Dienhart needs to either separate himself now from the Mayor, or admit he is a supporter. There is no middle-road in this council position.

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Petty ultimatum

By condescending to respond to your petty ultimatum the candidate may win voters with an elementary school mentality as yours Mike, but he would likely lose ground with the larger group of rational thinking adult voters.

Steve

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Paper says no Imker yet, but a Steve Allen qualified

for that Post. Is that you Citizen Steve?
Odd that Imker didn't qualify, although he may have waited until the last minute. I think the paper was printed before the actual deadline.

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Councilman Imker has qualified

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So, now we have a horse race

I feel I know about Imker and some about Dienhart, but know absolutely nothing about Brown or Allen. So we shall see how this develops. If Steve Allen is the Stephen Allen that wrote the letter that supported Haddix's ARC departure position, that will at least put some life into that campaign's debates.

Be good if the Rotary just featured these 4 candidates and opened up the format a bit so they could debate and question each other directly. You learn a lot about people that way. If we had that last time we might have gotten some preview of the Haddix mouth and intellect and avoided that problem. That preplanned question thing that Rotary has done for 20 years has gotten really old. Let's modernize.

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Stephen Allen, 3 Rivers proponent

There is a Stephen Allen from Peachtree City that had a Steve Brown sized letter on here last November that appeared to support the mayor's position that Fayette County should leave the ARC. Wonder if it is the same guy who qualified for Imker's seat. Wouldn't that be a hoot if Haddix got rid of Imker and had his handpicked candidate qualify in an uncontested election? All on one Friday afternoon? I may have to rethink Haddix's political acumen.

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Candidate Stephen Allen, a

Candidate Stephen Allen, a neighbor of former Mayor Bob Lenox--- now that's interesting.

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Steve, Steve, Steve...

When you feel the need to bolster your point by using personal insults then it leaves whatever merit your statement might have had, empty. I know you can do better than this, and you will have to if your goal is to get a response (or rise) out of me.

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Independent Candidates

Mayor Haddix has proven that all he wants is control and has looked to undermine anyone who opposes him.

Based upon his idiotic behavior and inability to work with others, it is absolutely fair to see if all candidates running for city council are truely "independent". Sturbaum was clearly controlled by Haddix mostly likely because Sturbaum did not have the time to devote to the job due to family and work pressures.

We need to elect "independent candidates", people who we can trust to do what's best for PTC, not take sides with one faction or another. And, let's remember that the currently mentality of council is a result of the mayor's behavior.

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MadMike

Well said.

Also, ignore some of the negative responses to your comments...some appear to be quite haughty with their condescending attitudes.

You are 100% right, we need smart, independent people on council! and I stress independent.

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On Target Again ptcrightnow

"we need smart, independent people on council! and I stress independent."

Exactly. For those of us that believe (and I understand there are some who don't) that Haddix's actions in his official capacity as Mayor have been embarrassing, unproductive, and in many cases, harmful to our city, it is important to know whether candidates running for council agree that the Mayor needs to change his attitude and methodology for a better functioning city government.

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I can't say it any clearer

Mike,

I am not a supporter of the mayor, and as I have said elsewhere, I would have supported censure as a last resort. I have written columns in the other newspaper that back me up on that statement. I have been saying all along that I will be an independent voice on the council. A voice that puts the people of Peachtree City ahead of political agendas and personal bickering. I am running to try to solve the very problem you mention above, while my opponent was quoted in this paper as saying “It kind of put me off that the mayor walked out on one of the votes. But I’m not running for the mayor’s seat. ... I won’t tell everybody I can fix that.”

So Mike, upon careful analysis, you have one candidate that is on public record, in multiple places, as not being a supporter of the mayor's actions. That's me. The other candidate seems to be rather ambivalent about
a problem that has paralyzed local government- that's Scott Brown. I am campaigning to fix the "council wars" that are tearing city government apart. Scott Brown doesn't seem to believe that he can do so.

Hope that clarifies things.

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Steve Brown: Mr. Dienhart

Here is a comment for what it is worth. I understand that you do not support the current mayor, Don Haddix, and that is certainly your prerogative. However, I would ask you think about your position on the censure issue.

Do I not remember seeing you at the censure meeting. At least half the audience members who spoke stated they were dissatisfied the entire council's performance and I agree.

In the simplest terms, three council members censured the mayor for having an opposing view. They termed the view as "negative," but it was obviously clear the views they condemned were opposite of their three member majority.

Please read the minutes to that meeting and watch the taping. We do not need a local government which condemns freedom of speech, even if the opinions were wrong (coincidentally, not all of the mayor's "negative" comments were wrong).

I supported all five of the current council members when they ran for election and I was disappointed that my local government is condemning public speech.

Blogger MadMike said, "Mayor needs to change his attitude and methodology for a better functioning city government." That statement holds a lot more water than saying I will censure someone for having a differing opinion. And MadMike is correct in saying the mayor, if he wants to move forward with some of his initiatives, is going to have to change his methodology.

I suggest getting off the "censure" free speech bandwagon and stick to the nuts and bolts of local government. The right of free speech makes us the greatest country in the world.

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Where is the free speech issue Steve?

Please educate me, and I don't mean that facetiously. I fail to see where the "free speech" issue is in censuring the mayor in this case. The censure is a reprimand of his conduct. It doesn't prevent him from saying anything. I think President Obama should be censured for being apologetic to our enemies; I think what he says is dangerous and irresponsible... that doesn't mean I think a law should be passed to prevent him from saying it. Likewise, I think the mayor has said irresponsible things to the county, in the paper, to his employees, and to a former mayor that by the way, got the city sued. I agree with a censure, which has no legal ramifications, to reprimand his actions but would strongly disagree with any law or motion to create one that would prevent the mayor from saying anything specific.
Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see a free speech issue in this at all.
Thanks for your comments.

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Steve,

This is my last post on the Mayor. As I have said, repeatedly, I would have supported censure as a last resort. I'll assume you don't know my background. As a United States Marine I served in the Gulf War. I was willing to put my life on the line to protect Citizen Don Haddix's right to freedom of speech. I think that potentially giving my life in defense of all our freedoms puts me firmly in the pro free speech camp.

I also believe that Mayor Don Haddix has a responsibility to the city he has been elected to serve. Would you criticize the board of Ford Motor Company for taking action against it's CEO, if the CEO choose to drive a Chevy? Of course not, it would damage the Ford brand. If the board honestly felt that the Mayor was causing harm to Peachtree City, then they were correct in taking action. Such action should have included the threat of censure, followed up by actual censure if the Mayor did not take appropriate action.

I have been saying since I announced that it is my plan to bring a new attitude to the council. An attitude that will allow reconciliation and cooperation. This is my goal, and doing so is the only way that this city can get back on track. Too much energy has been expended on this negativity, and it must end for this city to be effectively managed. The voters will have their say on the Mayors performance in 2 years. In doing so, the people will decide this issue, as is the American way.

Thank you for your advice, and your service to this city and Fayette County.

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Good for you George

You have a better understanding of the situation than our former mayor (censured himself) and current county commissioner. Telling him to go pound sand gets my vote.

I do think it would be nice for candidates Brown and Allen to out themselves or at least express an opinion on the Haddix censure and state whether or not they are happy we are in the ARC. At least one of them has to be a Haddix supporter and the sooner we know that, the better. Imagine if we don't find out until after the election.

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George: FORD?

We aren't talking about Ford and a hired CEO!

My question to you is: instead of you saying "if" he did something in particular wrong, he should have been disciplined, you must say how you would have voted!
If you don't know due to facts, then why in the devil are you making it appear that he did do something wrong?
He is an elected official--the highest we have, and just because some don't like him or his methods does not mean we all despise him, nor should we.

It is crap that he cost us jobs here. Bush and the unregulated banks did that!

I am not looking forward to your tenure!

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George Dienhart vs Steve Brown

Mr Dienhart

Your comments fall on deaf ears. Steve Brown is no more a team player as is Don Haddix. They are 2 peas in a pod with 1 exception, Steve Brown is intelligent and the current mayor is not.

Luckily we have libel laws in the United States as a counter balance to freedom of speech and Haddix will learn as he loses whatever assets he has left to Harold Logsdon and the lawyers defending him.

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Steve Brown

Mr. Brown:

Haddix was censured due to his horrible behavior that including attacking fellow council members, and publicly lying among other things.

Elected officials have an obligation to tell the truth and act responsiblly, this mayor does not.

No one wants to limit free speech, but clearly the other members of council and many citizens of Peachtree City are fed up with this mayor and his behavior.

Yes, he needs to change his attitude and methodology for a better functioning government but that includes telling the truth and put governing above politics.

Let's not protect him under the defense of "free speech". Anyway, he will soon learn his lesson on "free speech" when he has to pay Harold Logsdon for his irresponsible statements. Luckily we have libel laws to protect us from those who improperly use "free speech".

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ptcrightnow:clearly fed-up?

What were the lies he told?
What was his horrible behaviour?
What council member did he "attack?
How many is "many citizens" who are "fed-up?"

What is his "bad attitude and methodology?"
How does one "govern above politics?"

What if Mayor Logston did come to meetings drinking too much alcohol? (obvious behaviour). Public drunkenness is against the law. Are there other witnesses to this?
Is the law suit still active?
Should this sort of behaviour that Haddix says existed be ignored?

We do need leaders who work for us not the city officials and employees!

Do you know how many tax paid employees there are in the USA of the 150,000,000 who work? Do you know their efficiency?

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Roundabout

Why don't you take your meds?
Why are you on this blog?
Why don't you seek help?
Why do you pester people on this site?
Why do you respond to everyone?

What would you do if everyone just ignored you?

Shouldn't you just go away and stop bothering everyone?
How many years have you been doing this? and what other names have you used on this blog to bother everyone?

Do you know that since 5:59AM this morning you have pestered 7 people with your annoying blogs?

Why is there a black car with 2 men parked outside your house? Are they watching you? What about the space aliens? Are you concerned? Are they coming to take you away? Are the men wearing white suits? do they have a streacher for you? Are you afraid?

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How's that stopping the WFB coming along? Why aren't you standing in front of the bulldozers?

Do you support the Falcons, Braves, and Hawks?

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Fair Enough George

Thank you for addressing the specific issues I asked. You say that you would support a censure as a last resort. However, you wrote an article after the censure that indicated that the Mayor had simply failed to "pick his words correctly."

"They have now banded together to call for an official censure of the Mayor. His crime? He offered his opinion."

"Censuring the Mayor serves no purpose at this point."

In fairness, you did recognize that bringing attention to the Mayor as a "loose cannon" could be detrimental in bringing new business to the city. You admitted that the Mayor was probably not re-electable at this point.

I will take you at your word at this point George with a gently reminder that what we don't need on the council are any Haddix-sympathizers who are simply willing to tolerate him as the white elephant in the room. Haddix is the problem, he is hurting the city, and if nothing can happen to remove him prior to his term expiration, then his self-serving agenda needs to be challenged and stopped at every turn. I am simply hopeful that the new council member(s) understand this.

Randy Gaddo is a neighbor and I agree completely on your assessment of that situation.

Thank you

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MadMike, George and others

What on earth has the Mayor done that you want him removed?

Is the Gaddo thing the problem?

Frankly, I don't know Gaddo, but I must say that is why I favor one term for all elected officials everywhere--maybe a little longer than 3-4 years in some cases.

What happens if we have elected officials who want another term is the "old boy system," where no one is disciplined or fired to keep from stirring up "friends" and maybe lose the next election!

Do you really think we would have as many idiots after the current President if he were not running again? Of course not.

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Tongue in Cheek Roundabout?

Perhaps TIC in asking what the Mayor has done that myself and so many others want him removed? It would take a new website to address all of those reasons.

The Randy Gaddo firing is a big issue, but the Mayor alone cannot be blamed for that fiasco and I don't even know that he led the charge. Randy represented all that was good and right with our city. He represented a loyalty and dedication to the town that was essential in its success. Even if for budgetary reasons, getting rid of Gaddo made sense (and I don't think it did) the manner in which it was handled was disrespectful and uncalled for. They should have let him exit respectfully with an unveiling of a Bronze Bust at the entrance of City Hall for what he has done here.

You are spot on with one term elections and I agree. Detractors would argue that its hard to build continuity for long term objectives with one term limits but the "good ole boy" network you refer to and these "elected for life" politicians are much more dangerous. Ted Kennedy and Senator KKK Byrd are good examples of that on a national level.

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madmike: web site

Have you come up yet with a web site of illegal activities or insulting actions, or jealous of power stuff?

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In a Roundabout way...

I have not created a list of past activities of the mayor on your behalf. I might placate your request at some point if I find time because I think it would be interesting to compile.
Your goading me to do so is amusing and tempting, but we both know that those activities your so seemingly naive of are chronicled daily on these blogs as is your presence. Give me some time and will see what I can do for you.

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madmike

I doubt the Mayor was elected by the 5-6 haters on here!

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madmike

If you want to shut roundy up, just ask for some facts, that sends him on his way usually.

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I asked for some facts

He doesn't have any. He dislikes the Mayor & the layoffs and for being a strong Mayor against all tides.

He makes a few mistakes but everyone does who tries to do a lot.

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r-r-r-r-r-round-a-a-b-b-b-out-t-t-t-t

FIVE, count em...FIVE!

Put the bottle down and go get the pills, FAST......

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MOE: wasn't me!

Sometimes the newspapers site clogs and indicate that the server is out---then goes crazy.
It appently can not handle the volume and is really slow in today's fast world.

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Radical Idea!

I have an idea. Why don't we pick our public officials like we do our juries. Randomly select 3-4 from a pool (like a jury pool?) for each position and let them run for office. You have no plans of running but then you go to the mailbox and see that you have been called! That way we have no good ole boy network or political machines. You serve one time and move on with your life. LOL (I'm only half joking here)

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G35 Dude & Radical Idea

Never work! Think about how many folks whine & complain now about elected officials and what they do without "consulting" their constituencies---can you just imagine the fracus what would occur if officials were put into office without constituencies being consulted or have any voice in their "seating"? Just too many pitfalls in that one---but I bet you had fun giving it birth!

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AHG, the whiners are always going to whine--what may be a

deterrent with G's idea is that they know their turn is coming up---anyway if you didn't want the job and didn't really care about staying in office you wouldn't pay any attention to the whiners anyway! Sort of what is happening in Fayetteville right now. Like I said before, it will be a crap shoot but that is what all elections are anyway--how many promises can you honestly say a politician has kept after he was in office and how many make themselves available after elected? I don't know, G guy just might be on to something here--at least it is fun to imagine it.

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G35Dude, I like your method. I think it would be an improvement

Sort of like having a draft but instead of being issued a rifle you are issued a microphone and perhaps, a gavel. There are those who would find loop holes to not serve just as we had with the draft. Thankfully, flat feet would not be a problem--flat lining just might be! If everyone had to serve it might eliminate or at least slow down those who know how it should be done and are not shy about voicing their opinions but never choose to run themselves. The more I think about it the better I like your idea. A two year term would be sufficient. After all, the "ins" could not do much more damage than some elected officials at all levels do now. If we happened to get someone who did an excellent job the people could vote to keep that person in that position, with no input from that person--no speeches, no kissing babies, no corporate donations, etc. Come to think of it this might just be the ticket for all national elections too. Great idea G35----

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madmike: you left out some......

.........long "servers"

Thurmond; Stevens; Hollings; Murtha; Mills and many more.

You listed about the same list of severe trangressions that others have listed against the Mayor----NONE.

I didn't like Nixon, but I respected his service and office. Talk about non-nice people!

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Thanks

Yes, that was my point- continued attention is bad for business. It's no wonder Project X nearly bypassed the legal governing authority of this city. Who could blame them. I believe that the people will settle this issue in two years. In a perfect world, the Mayor would correct his behavior. Only time will tell.

Since Randy is a neighbor, I would ask you to approach him on this matter. He can shed some light. He is a close adviser to me. This has been public knowledge, and is one of the reasons I am confused as to how your two source came to the conclusion that I was the mayors new lackey. Give them my email (Dienhartforptc@gmail.com) and I will be glad to set them straight.

I agree, we don't need a puppet on the council. I will be a strong representative of the people- and only the people. Thanks for helping me clear this up.

G

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George

If I just knew what "people" to whom you refer! People on the tax roles or not?

Really can't be for both when it comes to layoffs!

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MM, if Mr. Dienhart runs and wins the seat he will have to work

with the mayor. When everyone on here is constantly yapping about wanting unity on the council, do you really feel you should put Mr. Dienhart in the position of knocking someone he may have to work with? Do you not feel it would be sufficient for Mr. Dienhart to state what he hopes to accomplish for the city as a councilman, state his views on what changes need to be made by council to benefit the city and how he hopes to bring about these changes? I believe Mr. Dienhart has already stated on here that he does not have a close association with Mayor Haddix and that he has not always agreed with his decisions. What more do you want?

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Yes, No, and Maybe

Hi MYTMITE:

Fair questions and I understand your points.

Should we put Mr. Dienhart in the position of knocking someone he might have to work with? Yes, if that is how you want to describe it. If this was simply a witch hunt from a few people who have an ax to grind with the Mayor I would agree that this line of question would be counter-productive. But when 3 out of 4 council members vote to censure the Mayor for his actions and appeal to him to change his ways for the betterment of the community, then I consider it a significant issue and a fair area of discussion. Unfortunately, we no longer have the luxury of asking what wonderful plans a candidate might have for the city when we have a divisive battle going on between the mayor and all but one council member who is not seeking a new term.
I would like to know if Mr. Dienhart agrees with the censure and the reasoning for it, and if he believes that the job and activities of the acting mayor have been conducive to promoting and progressing the ideals of the city. Under the circumstances, I can't think of a more important line of questioning.

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MTYMITE exactly right

Well said!

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NUK_1

Indeed!

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madmike: He already answered

He's not a fan of Haddix, read his posts today. I don't know how he can be any clearer.

Matter of fact, look right under the post you just made and you'll see a link to his response from earlier today.

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Dienhart

He's not a fan of Haddix but realizes you have to deal with the blowhard in any event. Really don't how that rumor ever started:

http://thecitizen.com/articles/08-30-2011/qualifying-so-far-5-f%E2%80%99...

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PTC Council Candidate

Thought I read in the other Fayette paper last week that a Lana Jones (?) was also running for council. Said something to the effect that she was the family candidate. Maybe she changed her mind? Anyone heard? What about Randy Gaddo?

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Randy Gaddo
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Dienhart

George... aren't you the "Mayor's Candidate?"

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No

I am not. I was routinely critical of the mayor as a columnist. I am not associated with either faction.

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With all the commentators here from PTC I had expected

there would be many more jumping at the opportunity to run for council.

Where is everyone now?

I suppose no one else can qualify.

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BHH, what I have deduced from many of the posts here, there are

several who post here who seem to have all the answers and constantly criticize those in office, but when it comes to putting their actions where their mouth is--they are absent. I am the first to say I don't feel I am qualified to run, so I don't--I may not always agree with what those in office do but I respect the fact that they had the 'cajones' to run, as opposed to those on this site who constantly disparage those who did/do. It will be interesting to see if anyone who runs lives up to their expectations. For once I would like to see one of them 'man' up and put their name in the hat if they have all the solutions to all our problems. It would be refreshing--but it ain't a gonna happen--much safer to sit at their computer and bitch, bitch, bitch.

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MyTunqualified

You ARE qualified if you can pay the fee, live here, and don't owe the city any money that is overdue.

My goodness if it required a certain quantity of intelligence we simply would have to contract the positions out!

There is no reason to be afraid of the job----no knowledge is required. Just ask the public by survey, and then do what you want anyway!

Just don't have any good friends around or people you owe money.

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BHH

Any sane or idiot person can run---just register and pay the money.
Mostly idiots run.

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So, Roundie, when are you qualifying?

I can see the poster now---PTC Sam pointing his finger at you and saying "Your city needs you."

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And some are lazy...

...or cowardly, or even more of an 'idiot' and won't do anything for their community except bitch about decisions those who did made.

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As I asked on another site mentioning Imker's intention to run

again but leaving no way to comment: What happened to Imker saying he would only run one term--he was going to cure our ills in that one term and step away---did he become power hungry or was that just a campaign promise being made to be broken?

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Mytmite

Do you have a source of his promise to stick to one term? I expect he planned on only one term, but the office corrupts. Publicizing the source could help him keep his vow.

Steve

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Citizen_Steve, I heard this statement made by Imker at one of

his get togethers before the election and also it is referred to in the article noted below. He did not refute the statement attributed to him. If he did I never saw it in print or heard him refute it. Hope this is helpful.

http://archive.TheCitizen.com/node/35046

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Scott Brown is Doug Mitchell's stepson

I really don't think we need someone with that pedigree serving on city council. Mitchell is the one who foisted off that $28million sewer deal on the city. Thank you Jim Pace.

Scott lived with the Mitchell's for years, went to McIntosh and I am sure he picked up some opinions about how to screw the city. No thanks, Scott.

I assume it is the same person - if not - never mind.

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Morgan Dead Guy--- what a freaking clown

Here is your latest embarrasment of ignorance. Scott Brown died of cancer as a young man. Now we have a Scott Brown who is a candidate. You trash on both of them. You don't stop for a second and think "Hey, common name, might not be the same guy." And the the best--- your conclusion---"I assume it is the same person - if not - never mind."

You just keep slamming away making an ass of yourself. LOL.

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RWM - more lies & BS

Exactly which sewer system do you refer to Morgan? Do you mean the one that PCDC offered to PTC for basically nothing and was turned down by Bob Lenox who declared "We don't want to be in the sewer business". Would that be the same sewer system where millions of dollars were then invested renovating and updating the system? Would that be the same renovated and updated system where Bob Lenox then decided that PTC just had to have control over it's own sewer system?

You speak disparagingly of Doug Mitchell. Were it not for Doug Mitchell PTC would not exist as one of the top rated cities in the nation today. For readers who are not aware, Mr. Mitchell bought PCDC (Peachtree City Development Corporation) from Prudential when Prudential wanted to get out of the home building business. Were it not for Mr. Mitchell's vision and hard work, the grand vision that PTC is today would have collapsed into something else in the early 90's.

Pedigree Morgan? The whole of your moral, spiritual, and intellectual capability rolled up into a ball would not amount to a pimple on the backside of a man like Doug Mitchell.

You really, really, need to stick to slandering elected officials Morgan, its what you do best.

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That Scott Brown is deceased

Geez......he's been dead for years from bone cancer and this Scott Brown is certainly not the same one. For a dead guy, I figured you would know this.

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That, I did not know. Sorry.

Same name mistake. Good luck to Mr. Brown and the other candidate. I did expect more than 2, however. What about Beth Pullias? I guess some are waiting until the end of the week.

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RWM - Beth and her family very recently moved to . . .

. . . Greenville SC where her husband received a job offer he couldn't turn down. PTC's loss in more ways than one.

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That is really too bad. I thought she had potential

to be really good on city council. Oh well, good luck to her and her family.

So, Terry, it is only Wednesday and that gives you plenty of time to qualify to run for city council. How about it?

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RWM, the mere thought of encountering . . .

. . . one dufus (er, I mean voter) after another, day after day, wanting to corner me to argue their point of view, makes me think of creatively violent methods, which is just one reason I am not suited to being a public servant. But thanks for the compliment. What about you?

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I think I could probably run, but not win

and that would really be dumb. My campaign promises would be the simple big 3 ideas that I would repeat over and over until everyone got glassy-eyed.

1.Fire Haddix and replace him with a ceremonial non-voting mayor who is charter-bound prohibited from commenting on city council business in blogs or the press.
2. Hire a full-time Director of Economic Development at a salary of $130,000 per year with a $200,000 marketing budget - all funded from the hotel-motel tax.
3. Sell at least 50 cars and eliminate 30 city jobs. The employees eliminated would be the first 30 that tell me I can't do any of this.

I think I'll go pick up a candidate packet from city hall just to see how they react.

And yes Terry, I really understand the tedium of listening to everyone's opinion on how government should work. People like me, for example. Maybe that's why elected officials change once they get into office. I used to think it was arrogance and entitlement; maybe it is just simple withdrawal from unpleasant encounters with the hoi polloi.

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You might run?

I like your platform. I would vote for you.

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RWM, another reason people like me would be lousy . . .

. . . as a candidate is that I have no tolerance for the utter stupidity of voters and reporters expectation that candidates should have the answer to everything. One of our new candidates has "a plan" for PTC. Seems to be a requirement for candidates to posture as our savior while implying those currently in office are clueless, which of course is beyond silly.

If I were a candidate and asked for "my plan" I would be inclined to answer, "How about I serve in office for a while so I have some idea what the heck I am doing before I come up with a plan to save the city?"

As voters we collectively seem to have a subconscious streak of looking for a father figure to give us the warm fuzzies they will solve our problems; well, maybe Democrats look for a mother figure?

Anyway, just waxing philosophical before the sun comes up, maybe we would be better off electing candidates who have the least potential to do harm, smart enough to keep their eyes and ears open and mouth shut while in office for a while before trying to save the world. Maybe all we need is good judgment on what is best for "the people."

In a forum (debate) on a long list of the issues, when asked about many of them my answer might be, "I dunno, but I'll figure it out." Think that would fly? Neither do I. But at least it is honest instead of the baloney about "I have a plan."

Maybe that's why I have long harbored the notion that I should mistrust anyone who actually wants the office of president.

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Mr. Garlock, you are the type of person who would most likely

do a wonderful job---you seem to have majored in common sense; a commodity that seems to be lacking in most of our elected officials at all levels and in many who blog here.
Wasn't it Groucho who said something like I would not want to have for a friend anyone who wanted to be my friend? Can't remember exact quote but I kinda feel that way about those running for most offices--if they are actively seeking that office and making promises I become very leery. It seems the good ones that do get into office do not stay that way--they learn early that you have to go along to get along and if they don't they are edged out. Sad for our country--at all levels. Thanks for your blogs and columns, I always enjoy reading them.

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MYTMITE, you make my head . . .

. . . swell to the dangerous point that I might feel the urge to make a campaign promise. Groucho said he wouldn't want to join any club that would have him as a member. I remember that because I used it once in front of a group that invited me to speak, and I was sort of questioning their judgment.

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Thanks for the correct quote---I couldn 't remember it and am

not computer literate enough to know how to look it up while keeping what I had posted. Of course, I could have just discontinued that post, looked it up and come back--but you came to the rescue. We laugh and joke about the situation, but I feel we are in a scary position at all levels in our country. I hope we have not lost the strength as a nation to stand up to what needs to be done and that we can come up with leaders who can do what is right and needed instead of what feeds their egos and/or party. We, as a nation have done such great things in the past and so many have been willing to make sacrifices in the past--these days it seems the only ones making sacrifices are our service personnel who are willing to put it all, including life and limb, on the line to do what they feel is right. And, then, sad to say our government doesn't seem to want to back them the way they should--while they serve and after they come home. These young men and women are my heroes---Sometimes I think it should be a prerequisite for anyone holding office to have served in the armed forces--really served--seen what it is all about--then they might be able to make the decisions they need to make for the right reasons. Oops, didn't mean to get on a soap box--but it is a subject I feel strongly about.

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I don't know, Terry

No, the I don't know, but I'll find out approach does not work - although it is clearly the most honest answer. That was tried by one of the 6 candidates who went up against Brown at the end of his first term. Everybody else was up there spouting facts and figures and this guy basically said - I don't know about that, I'm new at this, I don't want to waste time learning all this stuff until after I'm elected. Funny yes, effective, no.

Yea, the guy who has a website "saveptc.com" seems to fit the profile of father figure, but as Mad Mike points out, he has not commented directly on Haddix and until he does I can't talk myself into voting for him. The other guy is a complete unknown. Of course Beth won't run, nor will Scott Bradshaw or Mike King. Maybe someone will emerge today or tomorrow.

Anyway, I'm still sticking to my plan. May not give anybody a warm fuzzy feeling, but as they say - Father knows best.

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RWM, Terry...

We each have priorities with which all of us must deal. That said, you and Terry would make an interesting pair on the city's dais. Both being intelligently agile and also incapable of suffering fools(and whiners) lightly which makes the two of you precisely what the city needs.

On the other hand, perhaps it is that some on Council would benefit from a knuckle-dragging sort, and for that I would propose Scott Bradshaw. 8-)

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Haddix

I am not a supporter of the mayor or his conduct. That being said, the next council still has to work with him. People with differnt political outlooks still can work together for the good of the city. What I pronise is to bring an independant outlook that is unbiased by either faction. I will put the people before politics and work to ensure that those serving with me try to do the same.

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George: spelling

You will save your secretary a lot of hard work if you will simply ask Google or some other place that will search for you, where you can download a free "spellchecker."
That way you can, like me, use your hammer fingers and ham wrists right real fast!

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I have Advised George

to stay off the blogs! There is nothing good that will come of it for him here! This forum is for fools, knaves, slackers, naysayers, soothsayers, bored retirees, socialists, open-carry proponents, political hacks, sad sacks, unreconstructed confederates, mush heads, egotistical preachers, addled Vietnam vets, old ladies, trouble makers, risk takers, bubble makers, complainers, whiners, diners, cyclists, and, of course, editor Cal, whenever he deems us worthy of his words!

Just Say No!

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Is this the #1 qualifier

to be a PTC politician on these blogs?

1) can't spell.

George, go get your $180.00 back, buddy. Please. Thanks anyway.

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tiny touchscreen keys are not my friend...

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At least it's an honest response. Interesting - digital campaigning!

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Cutesy replies on here

will not get my vote. Thank you for the response. Have a good day.

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George: Thanks for Clearing That Up!

Now, I can put my sword away! But, additional taxes for more nice stuff is not bad! But, I guess you can't say that in public! I would like for you to look into the rumored 188 cars/trucks the city has! Not even Imker will comment on that! Maybe he is driving one!

A&M moving to the SEC, whoop de do!

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That is on my list of "to dos"

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Sad

That's a sad story indeed, I'm sorry for the family. And Mr. Morgan's family too - he was also victimized by cancer as I understand.

But my hat is off to Scott Brown - thanks for volunteering for a job that will have everyone throwing stones at you! I wish I had even half of your courage.

Steve

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It doesn't require courage...

......simply do the job and tell the naysayers to shut up!
Of course you may be Censured....whatever that means!

We have a whole building full of such people in D.C.

Even a "foot-washing" Governor of Texas wants to install foot washers in the White House.
Or, one wants to bring the golden tablets with him and place them in the Smithsonian.

Or, one from Alaska wants a new book contract before running. Also, wants all Americans to get a check from the oil companies every month to buy blubber.
Or, one wants to send millions home, unemployed, from most of the cabinet departments, and not provide them any unemployment compensation. And no Insurance for health. He is wealthy from health insurance.

or, one has a husband who profits from government largesse in his homo clinic, where he "changes" them.
This one also tells jokes after they become jokes. (God's hurricane and earthquakes).

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Tomorrow

I will be filing tomorrow morning.