OPINION — Why the terrorists won the Boston battle

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OPINION — The terrorists won the battle of Boston, not because of the bombing of the Boston Marathon, but because of what happened afterwards.

American law enforcement — in a number estimated to be beyond 8,000, about the size of an Army infantry division — shut down a major American city on an April Friday.

Why did they shut down Boston and its suburbs and order citizens to “shelter in place”?

Because one armed 19-year-old man was on the loose.

Was this 19-year-old carrying a suitcase nuclear weapon?

No. He was armed at most with a 9mm handgun and possibly some pipe bombs.

One teenager — and a massive over-reaction by law enforcement — shut down an American city for an entire weekday.

That action — and that action alone — handed terrorism a major victory.

This vast over-reaction by law enforcement angers me as much as the original bombing of innocents.

Great Britain withstood weeks of German aerial bombardment in World War II and years of Irish Republican Army terrorists’ bombings.

They never cowered all day — also known as “shelter in place” — because of these much larger-scale events.

We can do better than “shelter in place.”

And American law enforcement needs to rethink its nanny state response to one man. One man.

[Cal Beverly is editor and publisher of The Citizen.]

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Spot On!

The "lockdown" of so much of Boston was a victory for terrorism, just as it is a victory for terrorism every time an old lady or child is groped ... sorry, hand-searched ... at an airport; every time someone drops a nail file, pen knife, or letter opener in a barrel before standing in line to be scanned, frisked, humiliated. The hundreds of millions of dollars spent for sophisticated scanners, the entire TSA--they're victories for terrorism. It's been said that the military is always fighting the last war. That seems true of the entire country ... we haven't agreed on a definition of terrorism; we find it difficult to say loudly and firmly who the enemy is (Muslim fundamentalism), but invent euphemisms like "radicalized" and "home-grown." We still refuse to sensibly profile. We still tend to identify the enemy with geography (witness the way the administration and the press talk of "al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula," and "al-Queda in Yemen," for example). Our minds seem stuck in World War II when the enemy was easily identified and targeting was based on geography. That's no longer true. Oh, and just to incite additional ire, how different might things in Boston have been if every able-bodied male and female was both armed and trained, as were the New England militiamen who led the fight for this country's independence?

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Ben Franklin and Boston 2013

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ("An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania," 1759; published by Franklin.

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Actually I agree...

... Declaring Martial Law in all but name certainly gives us a glimpse of the future. It was a great trial run it seems for Governments large and small to simply throw the 2nd, 4th and 10th right out of the window. Seeing armored personnel vehicles.. APVs with Military troops rolling down an American City street while telling everyone basically you are under martial law was an eye opener at best.

There were several arrest of people, who chose not to comply, with the unlawful order.

So we see just how far down the rabbit hole we have traveled.. and many are OK with that, as long as, they "THINK" they are safer..

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Apples and Oranges, Cal

Stunningly idiotic column. Comparing an ongoing bombing assault in WWII to a couple (or more it now appears) of mass murderers who savagely attacked hundreds of innocent people at a sporting event is just absolutely the height of absurdity. As several others have already pointed out, the intent of shelter in place is not only to protect the citizens from two idiots from inflicting more injuries and deaths, but to also allow law enforcement to have a better shot at capturing. And considering the outcome, I'd say it was a prudent move. Rather than express your outrage at a temporary infringement on the citizens of Boston's ability to go about their business, where has your outrage been regarding a permanent infringement on all of our rights as a result of the Patriotic Act pushed through by one of if not the worst president in history...George W Bush? Seems to me that all things considered I'd be more concerned with that.

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Ok Cal:

Ok Cal: to show you just what an idiot you are, and how obviously very little you know outside Fayette County and this Gossip Column you call a newspaper.

First: The officials in Boston did not know if they were dealing with just one person or not. Looking at news coverage today, it is becoming more and more obvious that these terrorists were not acting alone and that they likely had good financial and operational backing. You just can't walk into the local army navy store and buy military grade explosives.

Second: The Massachusetts State Police and Watertown Police admitted that after the shootout happened, they were very busy dealing with the immediate situation, including the wounded MBTA Officer. There were not enough police in the area at the time to totally secure a 2 mile perimeter in all directions. Cal, I'm from Boston. This is an urban area with many streets, back yards and alleys. It takes about 8000 cops to secure a perimeter that size in that area. It stands to reason, and as it turns out, he was OUTSIDE the perimeter the police had set up for a door to door search. Had he not been wounded, he probably would have gotten much farther away. It's not Fayetteville or Peachtree City Cal.

Third: These terrorists killed 3 people and wounded 176 others with sophisticated bombs that bear the signature of terrorists worldwide. They also ambushed and murdered a cop. Real news coverage is revealing a story that they were going to plant more bombs, kill and maim more innocent people and even after their pictures were released. They were not running away to hide. They planned to die doing this.

Four: Not once have you heard ANYONE in Boston complain about the city being shut down. So no, the terrorists did not win. The people of Boston came together and showed the terrorists that they picked THE WRONG CITY to bomb.

Finally: I seriously doubt the British Government told their citizens to walk outside while the German Planes were overhead dropping bombs. I believe they sounded air raid sirens to tell people to seek shelter. Only after the raids were over were people allowed to go back outside.

Cal, Where did you get your journalism degree? Where did you get your information about what all this person had on himself at the time the police were after him? His brother had on a bomb belt. How do you know he didn't?

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Terriers88: Pretty compelling argument there

I have to say that I'm torn between the shut-down of a major city and the other side of it working quite well and rather quickly. I can't disagree with your points at all because what happened actually worked in this case.

The terrorists didn't win squat. The city of Boston may have a bloody nose and a bleeding lip after this, but at the end, Boston and America got these two pieces of human trash before they could wreak any more havoc on humanity.

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Boston Law Enforcement

Whether you like what they did and how they did it or not, it's particularly difficult to argue with success. For example, if that citizen who saw blood on his boat had instead been out and about, that wouldn't have happened.

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obama: Islam is "religion of peace"

Two words you will never hear out of barry's mouth in the same sentence: 'Muslim terrorists'.

"Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism; it is an important part of promoting peace."....barrack hussein obama

"But I will say that first, Islam is one of the world’s great religions.”....barrack hussein obama.

Islam a Religion of Peace? Actions Say Otherwise.

“Peaceful” Muslims Destroy Dozens of WW2 Headstones

These Muslims show no respect for the fallen men who died in war. If anyone did that to a Muslim cemetery, the entire Muslim world community would be up in arms demanding the death of those involved. Islam is the most intolerant religion in the world and they continually prove that by their actions.

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Unbelievable

I knew it wouldn't take long for Joe Kawfi to blame the President for this and shame on you for your comments. If you think the way we handled things during WWI and WWII is how we should handle them now, then you are clearly living under a rock. Life is different now and you do NOT know if these two monsters were acting individually or with a large group with more plans. Since you are merely a small town newspaper dude and not a cop, your opinion means nothing to me. Narrow mindedness in this paper is pitiful.

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The fact of the matter remains that obumbles cut domestic bomb prevention funding By 45%, and that cut may have been directly related to officials not being able to stop these guys before it happened.

You can tap your little red slippers together all you want, and it won't change that fact. I put that information out here for the citizens of Fayetteville to read because the obama sychophants in the mainstream media absolutely refuse to tell the public anything that might damage the reputation of theier messiah.

We have been led into an incredibly dangerous and rewarding situation. One dangerous for ordinary people but rewarding to the political class as they gain new power after new power every time they fail to protect us.

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Ruby Slipped Joe Kawfi
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The fact of the matter remains that obumbles cut domestic bomb prevention funding By 45%, and that cut may have been directly related to officials not being able to stop these guys before it happened.

You can tap your little red slippers together all you want, and it won't change that fact. I put that information out here for the citizens of Fayetteville to read because the obama sychophants in the mainstream media absolutely refuse to tell the public anything that might damage the reputation of theier messiah.

We have been led into an incredibly dangerous and rewarding situation. One dangerous for ordinary people but rewarding to the political class as they gain new power after new power every time they fail to protect us.

Do you blame Bush for the 9\11 tragedy? Really Joe, your slippers are much larger and sparklier than anyone on here. Now, get outside, get some sunshine and fresh air, maybe it will help you clear your head a bit.

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Ruby Slipped Joe Kawfi
Joe Kawfi wrote:

The fact of the matter remains that obumbles cut domestic bomb prevention funding By 45%, and that cut may have been directly related to officials not being able to stop these guys before it happened.

You can tap your little red slippers together all you want, and it won't change that fact. I put that information out here for the citizens of Fayetteville to read because the obama sychophants in the mainstream media absolutely refuse to tell the public anything that might damage the reputation of theier messiah.

We have been led into an incredibly dangerous and rewarding situation. One dangerous for ordinary people but rewarding to the political class as they gain new power after new power every time they fail to protect us.

Do you blame Bush for the 9\11 tragedy? Really Joe, your slippers are much larger and sparklier than anyone on here. Now, get outside, get some sunshine and fresh air, maybe it will help you clear your head a bit.

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Obama Cut Domestic Bomb Prevention Funding By 45%

The price of liberty and life is eternal vigilance, which is why his cutting of the domestic bombing-prevention budget, according to the London Daily Mail, by 45% from what it was under President George W. Bush begs for an explanation. And we hope it's not to blame Republicans and sequestration.

Obama Cut Domestic Bomb Prevention Funding By 45%

If it turns out that the obamo-cuts to Domestic Bomb Prevention was partially responsible for what happened in Boston, then Obama and his dictatorial regime should be held equally accountable and held complicit to murder.

He won't cut ineffective entitlement programs that are rife with corruption, and he doesn't care about Americans enough to do his sworn obligation to protect us. Sad.

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Cal, Cal, Cal

You've really hit a new low... I've rolled my eyes at your off base comments and biased un-newsworthy articles for years and just thought you must be a little 'touched in the head'. You've done it now with this off base editorial. I guess the best way to show you my displeasure is to no longer purchase your 'news' paper and hope many others will protest against you this same way. Hit you in your wallet then maybe you'll 'hear' the people of Fayette county. I have just bought a subscription from your competitor and will support them going forward as will my ads. It's sad, your paper started out doing news but has slowly slid downhill and in my opinion has become lower than whale dung. And that's low...

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I like your dog.

Pretty harsh words there, you don't think Mr. Beverly has the right to an opinion, or only opinions with which you agree?

Anyway, it's a free country but I am sticking with The Citizen.

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Cal deleted me and we won

I mentioned how Obama and other Presidents shut cities every time they go to one. If I have to sit in my house for 24 hours with access to TV and internet to make it easier for authorities to track down a terrorist I will do just that. My grandfathers sat in a muddy trench during WWI and another in a B17 in WWII. I watched my father go to war in Vietnam. I served during Vietnam I was just lucky and never got the orders. For you Cal Beverly to say the terrorist won is just wrong. The citizens of Boston and surrounding areas did what they needed to do just like my father and grand fathers did. They won and you should be ashamed. Try to take Bostonian s 2nd amendments rights away and they will come out of their houses. Now delete this..

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Innocent in this case, JAC

Didn't do it. Don't know why your post didn't stick. Maybe you "fowled" up.

As to your criticism, you totally miss the point.

One terrorist shut a city down. One guy.

With the Boston police reaction as a model, look for more such small-team terrorist (NOT suicide squads) operations in a half dozen metro areas. Then more.

If law enforcement responds in the same way as Boston did, you could have multiple millions of Americans confined to their homes for days on end.

Could you agree that our desire for security above all else could end up crippling this nation and turning its citizens into prisoners in their own homes?

Is martial law really what you want?

I join with Ben Franklin in this thought: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

That's my point. What's yours?

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Maybe I did fowl up one will never know. I have before and I am sure I will again. I agree I do not want the government installing Marshal Law. The actions in Boston were not Marshall Law. The actions of law enforcement showed terrorists that we do not mess around do not bring it here as you will pay. My point is if I am requested to stay inside for a bit an keep my eyes open I will if it means capturing some SOB who killed and maimed innocent folks. As to my other point "one guy" ie the president shuts down many city blocks when he visits. I never see your opinion on the PTC police speed traps that is right in our faces and no I have never had a speeding ticket in the PTC. As I heard one citizen say this paper is " the good news gazette" No news that's not good news. Sorry Cal I call them as I hear them.

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Terrorists won-Maybe, Maybe Not

The German Blitz left over 30,000 people dead and 50,000 injured. The 30 year IRA conflict left over 3,500 dead in England and Ireland

In less than a week, 2 brothers killed 4 people, injured 130 of which 54 remain in the hospital in serious to critical conditions of which 10 lost limbs. These teenagers had an arsenal of IEDs and weapons (possibly a nuclear or "dirty" bomb-who knew) to inflict more harm that included the random assassination of a campus police officer as a start.

Call me a "nanny" but not sure I would want our country or city bombed for 4 years by the Nazis or 30 years by the IRA. I'll "shelter in place" any time at the request of law enforcement to hunt down any terrorist who strikes at our way of life!

As for the press being partially responsible.....Law enforcement used the press in the release of the brothers' photos and it worked, flushing them out in matter of hours.

It should be pretty clear to terrorists that we have the resources, technology and collective will that we will hunt you down in a matter of hours should you commit acts of terror!

Just another viewpoint and way to look at.

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Not sure if I would "shelter in place" if it was large scale, multiple cities or for long periods of time. Let's hope we never get to that!

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"Shelter" for one and all

So now the head of the ACLU is whining because they're gonna question the prisoner without reading him his Miranda rights! I say the head of the ACLU would enjoy a 3 month tour at Guantanamo!

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People who live in glass houses…

Mr. Beverly, people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

How often have the media hyped up stories beyond any reasonable point? How about these weather alerts all the local TV channels are fond of, while they pre-empt regular programs for a few million people, or reduce the screen picture to about 20 percent of its regular size, while superimposing three different scrolling messages and showing bright red, orange, yellow, and green color blotches on the screen purporting to come from sophisticated radar instruments whose secret messages are decipherable only by the talking head meteorologists in the studio promising to stay up all night to keep their vital reporting alive.

You can tell how important all that is, and how sincere the media’s concern, when you see all this hoopla interrupted by commercials.

How about advice to go lay down in a ditch under hard rain to avoid tornadoes? You’d want me to do that?

Of course not, you’re a print journalist. So you sensationalize other stuff.

So you think the cops in Boston over-reacted? Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re not. We’ll never know.

In any case, it’s not just the cops, or the people of Boston, who hype up stories. Look in the mirror sometime.

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WHY

Cal why did you delete my post? I used no fowl language. I did not suggest any fowl play. I only disagreed with you on the above article. So much for free press.

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Feathers Ruffled because Cal deleted your post, jusacitizen?

I'm perplexed. For what reason might Cal delete your message just because you avoided all references to ornithology? A little bird asked me to inquire.

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Shelter in place

Mr. Beverly, the "shelter in place" tactic had nothing to do with cowering or being a nanny state. It's designed to keep the public out of the way, free up law enforcement, and force the suspect to hunker down in one spot. The easiest way to let the suspect escape would be to allow business as usual and let him blend in with the crowd and disappear. And as for your assertion that this is just "one man" with a hand gun and some pipe bombs, let me rind you that this was a subject who had just committed an act of terror on US soil, committed armed robbery, assassinated a police officer, car-jacked an innocent passer-by, and led police on a chase where he exchanged fire with them and threw explosives at them as well. He was a proven threat to the public and it would be irresponsible to give him a chance to find some other crowded place and kill more people. But if you need more evidence that "shelter in place" was the right call you need look no further than the fact that he was captured alive and no one else was hurt.

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Better get back to the TV, you might miss something.

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Cal - wrong

The shelter in place request was to make it difficult for the perp to move. When the streets are empty, people running will stick out.

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Cal - wrong

The shelter in place request was to make it difficult for the perp to move. When the streets are empty, people running will stick out.

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Overreaction? I think the citizens of Mass. disagree.
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No. He was armed at most with a 9mm handgun and possibly some pipe bombs.

One teenager — and a massive over-reaction by law enforcement — shut down an American city for an entire weekday.

Will see what the investigation of this event reveals. A large section of Los Angeles was shut down for more than 'a weekday'. (Watts Riot - 1965) National Guard and local police were present.

Resilient Americans continue to win against these cowardly terrorists.

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Yes Cal, there is a better option than "shelter in place"

It is called armed citizens protecting their own homes. If there were really was 8,000 armed cops there, then why not 700,000 armed citizens? Of course the bleeding in the boat ending might have not been much different, but Sandy Hook sure would had a better ending if a teacher had a gun.

Actually Franklin Street in Watertown might have turned out different if the armed citizens turned out last night when the gunfight started. Innocent teenie boy would have been confronted by a small militia when he was looking for his hiding place.

Of course the government solution is 8,000 strong on overtime. Not that I begrudge them that, after all they do protect us. Nevertheless, an armed militia (like you and me) is certainly another solution. I expect the next Governor of Massachusetts - Scott Brown to introduce the arming every citizen bill next year. Oh yea, the death penalty in Mass. night be up for discussion as well.

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Second guessing law enforcement

I will not do that, at least not yet. A wonderful outcome, considering how long this could have gone on and more loss of life. They deserve our thanks and congratulations for a job well done.

I will comment on the fact that Obama lived in Boston, went to Harvard, and is BEST friends with that weakling, whiny Gov. Deval Patrick. How this is the most liberal state in the country and the Dems have a huge voter base here. I lived there for a short miserable period of time and experienced the govt. owes me everything, pro-union take-care-of-me life these people live.

Don't ANYone forget that Obama's illegal uncle Omar and auntie Zeituni live in Boston. She lives off govt. welfare, he is a DUI fake ID holder illegal immigrant who has been harbored in that state for 20 years. Mayor Menino of Boston is so unhealthy he has finally decided to not run for mayor again. Talk about a govt. boss, that guy runs that city as his little kingdom.

This is the city where Beverly Hall went to run the transit system after she all but bankrupted MARTA in Atlanta. She is doing the same to the MBTA in Boston. Let me tell you, the volume of ridership on that system is much, much higher than here and the fallout will be huge.

There is no question that the response by the FBI and all other federal agencies was so unbelievably overwhelming as a direct result of the governor's personal relationship with Obama. Can anyone imagine this massive show of force by the feds happening in any Republican state? I cannot.

The city of Boston is one of the best, most beautiful cities this country has but it is gimmee, gimmee, gimmee corruption.

Scott Brown will run for either a Ma. or NH (he has a beach house in NH) political office, I agree. Let's hope he wins for their sake.

I agree with Cal. The country has now changed forever. Our govt. has acted to control every movement of a million people and the terror element has succeeded this time. May we all pay attention to what is happening around us.

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This is the city where Beverly Hall went to run the transit system after she all but bankrupted MARTA in Atlanta. She is doing the same to the MBTA in Boston. Let me tell you, the volume of ridership on that system is much, much higher than here and the fallout will be huge.

Think you mean Beverly SCOTT, not Hall. Beverly Hall=disgraced former school fraudster. Beverly Scott? Just another failure.

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There is no question that the response by the FBI and all other federal agencies was so unbelievably overwhelming as a direct result of the governor's personal relationship with Obama. Can anyone imagine this massive show of force by the feds happening in any Republican state? I cannot.

Oh, I can. There is a TON of federal law enforcement people across numerous agencies laying around just waiting for something like this. It helps justify the Patriot Acts 1 and 2 and everything else the federal and state governments extract taxes for.

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You are right, Beverly Scott. Sorry.
Obama worked this from the WH for his buddy and ordered an unheard of number of personnel to do it.

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Shelter-in-place

You really should in Chicago. Overnight, 8 were shot. For some strange reason, this didn't make the headline news.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/chicago-shootings_n_3116945.html

Anyways, I suspect by tomorrow the 19 year old in Boston will be in custody or his "pieces" will be bagged up.

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Just another day in obamo-land paradise

Chicago Shootings: 8 Shot Overnight Citywide, Including 3 In Possible West Pullman Drive-Bys

Yeah - a lot of good your miserable gun control proposals do, barry. This is in your home state!

Face it, your attempt to gain yet more control of American lives failed because people just don't trust you. You have lied over and over and over, and it is catching up to you. Certainly you have your supporters, but nobody trusts you. You are untrustworthy. Sure, the moochers, and leaches, and parasites trust you. They trust you to keep forking over more obamo-phones and gubberment welfare checks.

You had other chances at gun control legislation with the Aurora and Giffords shootings, yet you did NOTHING because you are a political opportunist. You don't care about Americans, otherwise you would have acted then. But you didn't. Your are nothing but a lying weasel.

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Taken Alive - suspect in custody!

Congratulations to law enforcement.

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Mr. Beverly - Terror

works because of 24 hour news.

It sells air time and causes law enforcement to over reach because they don't want to be "embarrassed" by reporter questions afterwards.

So, if the terrorists won the Boston battle they had co-conspirators.

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It's that darned 1st amendment thingy that causes all this trouble. But not to worry, once we've gotten rid of that troublesome 2nd amendment we'll start working on the 1st.

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SPQR - 1st Amendment

I will defend to the death their right to broadcast, but I choose not to watch it like some sheeple. The fact is the Boston "battle" is as significant as we make it both in our minds and in the minds of future perpetrators.

The broadcasting on this will continue until something else comes along to divert the American public's attention and improve the viewership. In the meantime all the attention will inspire others just like them.

We should live our lives and be aware that there are those out there that will do us harm, many that will do us harm. Oh yes, and use the 2nd Amendment to protect ourselves from them.

Pray for the victims and guard ourselves and our family against being one of them.

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PTCO standby for ram

unfortunately the sheeple population is exploding and they vote. The things that so many Americans fought and died for are of little value to many in our current generation. Even the conservative elements in our society are more focused on ideology and John Wayne solutions than the basic premises that made this the greatest country in recorded history.

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SPQR & Ram

So are you in contact with your Representative and our Senators about your thoughts and recommendations for them to pursue?

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As a Matter of fact I do communicate with them. But like you don't bother with Westmoreland

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AHG - Surely

You jest?

Politicians pander to very large voting blocks that are bought and paid for with your money.

In case you haven't noticed.

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No, I'm not. I've had very good luck corresponding withboth Senators. I realize that it's their staffs of course but responses tell me they've got good policy in staying in touch with those they represent. Now when Newt was in office, he had a technique of handwriting a comment on every letter just so you would know he personally saw the answer. Never bothered with Westmoreland.

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AHG - Good Luck

Can you describe your "good luck"?

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PTC-O & 'good luck'

Sure--7 yrs ago, I took some extensive vision rehab after a stroke. My insurance co. refused the claim. A ltr to Sen. Chambliss resulted in the Ofc of Pers Mgt pressuring the insurance to pay--and they did! Saved me $6,000! I call that pretty good!

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