Fayette County primary election final unofficial results

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A new sheriff in town, runoffs in 2 county commission races, change coming to school board

10:32 p.m. — I was saying cautiously the past few days that Sheriff Wayne Hannah could lose, but I never figured how badly he would get beat. Former Sheriff’s Captain Barry Babb will take office Jan. 1 to replace the one-term incumbent Hannah.

Big shifts in power will be coming to the Fayette County Commission and the Board of Education.

Charles Oddo handed incumbent Robert Horgan a big beating in Post 1 of the Fayette County Commission, while comeback-wannabe Jack Smith — the former chairman of the commission — came in third in a 3-person race.

The runoff will be in three weeks between David Barlow and 2nd place finisher Sheila Huddleston for Post 2.

Incumbent Lee Hearn hung in there to draw a runoff slot against top vote-getter Randy Ognio for Post 3 on the commission.

Ga. Tech professor Barry Marchman won a seat on the Board of Education, beating Scott Hollowell by 1,200 votes for Post 1.

Mercer University professor Mary Kay Bacallao beat Gary Griffin by 3,000 votes to face party-switcher and incumbent Terri Smith for the Post 2 seat in November.

Sunday package sales won in unincorporated Fayette, while the same question ended in a tie — 20 to 20 — in tiny Woolsey. Maybe somebody should have been handing out at least one more free beer Tuesday in the south Fayette hamlet.

T-SPLOST went down badly in Fayette. Wonder if the Fayette Chamber of Commerce has a Plan B. No problem: They can share a loser’s beer with former Fayetteville Mayor Ken Steele and former commission Chairman Smith — both supporters of the doomed tax. Just don’t try to buy a cold one on Sunday in Woolsey.

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9:49 p.m. — Sheriff: Barry Babb 13,108 votes (64%) to incumbent Wayne Hannah's 7,362 (36%).

Oddo 69%, Horgan 31% ..... Barlow 40%, Huddleston 39%, Smith 21% .... Ognio 43%, Hearn 38%, Stopford 18%

Marchman 57%, Hollowell 43% .... Bacallao 68%, Griffin 32%

McMillian 66%, Ott 34%

Thompson 55%, Sanderson 45%

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More returns 9:34 p.m. — Tax Commissioner Wingo leads Bartlett 68% to 31%.

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I'll be blogging returns as I get them tonight, supplemented by reporters John Munford and Ben Nelms at election offices in Fayette and Coweta counties.

9:15 p.m. — 16% vote counted (11,817 ballots counted). Oddo leads Horgan 70% to 30%. Barlow leads 40%, Huddleston 38%, Smith 22%. Hearn 38%, Ognio 42%, Stopford 18%.

Hollowell 42%, Marchman 58%. Bacallao 68%, Griffin 31%

McMillian 66%, Ott 34%;

Sanderson 43%, Thompson 57%

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9:06 p.m. — Looks like Sheriff Wayne Hannah is in trouble, trailing Barry Babb by nearly 2,000 votes.

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8:52 p.m.: Sunday package sales Fayette, 66% YES to 34% NO

T-SPLOST — NO 79 % to 21% YES

McMillian 66%, Ott 33%

Thompson 56%, Sanderson 43%

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8:29 p.m. — Babb 59%, Hannah 40%

Horgan 30%, Oddo 69%

Barlow 40%, Huddleston 35%, Smith 23%

Hearn 38%, Ognio 42%, Stopford 18%

Hollowell 42%, Marchman 57%

Bacallao 66%, Griffin 33%
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8:22 p.m. — Oddo 2-to-1 ahead of Horgan;

8:20 p.m. —Westmoreland whupping Kingsley and the other guy 2-to-1 at this point. He looks likely to escape without a runoff.

8:12 p.m. — Potential upset in the making? Barry Babb leads incumbent Sheriff Wayne Hannah in very early returns.

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And that is my point

Mudcat,

My point being that you come up with examples of why you don't like Steve Brown but you lose all credibility by hiding behind a screen name. You can come up with any lie or truth you want about anybody who you want and NOT be held accountable. By using my real name I stand behind all my comments and I am held accountable.

It is clear that yourself and NUK views differ from Commissioner Brown, but I will have to tell you that I have to disregard your views simply because there is no accountability of what you say. I am always open to change and would like to understand other sides.

I hope you take to heart in becoming honest with all of us here.

Josh Bloom

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Josh, if you have been checking this site for any amount of time

you should have learned that Mudcat loves to make outrageous statements--this last one more so than others and as I said, one she needs to back up.

Mudcat is part (by association) of the old guard and I think still feels resentment that the power is no longer there. She, like several others have all the solutions and can do it all better than any elected official---of course that is easy to do in print rather than action but none of them put their names on the ballot. They are too afraid that others would lambast them with the same viciouness they spew at elected officials. My feeling is if you can do better--put yourself out there--if not wait til the next election and cast your vote as you see fit--but these few find it easier to keep slinging their insults. And I would be against it no matter what official they were knocking.

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Mr. Mudcat and Mr Nuk,

My name is Josh Bloom (real name) and I enjoy listening and debating ideas. My problem is that it is difficult to take either of you two seriously without being able to put a name to a face. Please let me know who you are and then we can continue to share ideas.

Josh

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Mr. Bloom you can stop wasting your time on those guys

Mudcat and Nuk are longtime gadflies from the old regime. All they know is personal attacks and insults.

They are having an especially hard time lately because their side is having a very difficult time coming up with candidates. Harold Logsdon was their last hoorah and that did not pan out so well.

Jack Smith, Eric Maxwell and Ken Steele bombed on them too.

You can stop asking their names too. It's easier for them to trash people anonymously. That way they do not have to be accountable, just trash and run.

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Brown: Personal attacks, insults and anti-everything is......

...your entire political career. Oh yeah, unfounded accusations is yet another. If you don't like the same being used against you and others, maybe try taking the high road FOR ONCE and not doing it over and over yourself. You and Haddix seem to come from the same school of trying to demonize anyone who holds a different opinion from yourself(especially in the newspaper) and that's why you both failed miserably as Mayors and why you got destroyed by Logsdon and Ramsey in subsequent elections. Matter of fact, you and the PTC "anti-Council" alienated so many people that Tenant and Rapson both lost re-election and moron Murray "Win With" Weed briefly showed some intelligence by not electing to run again. Well done...not.

We all know who and what you're against Steve, we hear it non-stop. What we the citizens want is someone who can govern, not someone who simply finds the easiest targets like Horgan, Hearn, Frady, WFB, TSPLOST, etc to rant and rave about all the time.

Horgan and Frady are GONE and if you and the crazies can control yourselves for a little while longer, Hearn is likely done too. Now, it becomes all about governing. Is the first course of action going to be like you did in PTC and pick a fight with someone like Bob Lenox? Is it going to be like one of your fellow crazies Fville Mayor Greg Clifton whose first item on his agenda was to try and and also settle "old scores?"

FC doesn't expect to have petty people with huge and yet very fragile egos running around grandstanding all over the place and simply against everything or whining on why they are getting out-voted. Haddix constantly did this and saw a 3-2 margin turn to 4-1. You're going to have to learn how to govern or the margins you lost to Logsdon and Ramsey as astronomical as they were will look pale in comparison.

You, Haddix and Obama all share the same quality of knowing how to effectively campaign against everything but all have not shown yet the ability to govern. It's easy to sit on the outside saying "you suck!!!" all the time, but once you're elected, it's on YOU, not phantom bankers or developers or ex-Mayors or other elected officials.

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Definition of hypocrite
Steve Brown wrote:

You can stop asking their names too. It's easier for them to trash people anonymously. That way they do not have to be accountable, just trash and run.

Tell me Steve, does lying count too? Aren't you proud of Steve Brown now Josh?

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Poor Steve!

Back to mangling facts again.

I am proud to say that I have never voted for Jack Smith, Eric Maxwell, Horgan, Hearn or Steve Brown. I haven't voted for/against Ken Steele either, but that's because he's never been on my ballot.

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Robert Morgan

I will say, Robert, out of all the anonymous attack bloggers you do stick to your guns, unlike Nuk.

You would take the PTC Development Authority(now defunct) corruption and the TDK Extension over me, your choice. You would take Jack Smith and his development bank, the West Fayetteville Bypass and deficit spending, your choice, again.

I am glad you are just an anonymous attack blogger.

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I voted for Jack Smith and would do so again

if his opponent was Steve Brown like it was last time. I have never voted for any of the others. And in PTC I voted for Logsdon in the mayoral runoff- once again because his opponent was you know who. Of course there were many more choices before the runoff - 6 I believe. Let's see, when an incumbent first-term mayor draws 5 opponents in his first reelection attempt, what does it tell you?
a. He's doing such a good job that he has elevated the mayor's position to that of rockstar and everyone wants to be mayor now.
b. The opposite of a. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ (fill in your own details here).

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Ditto Nuk_1

Ditto

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Don't backpeddle, Nuk, it's unbecoming ...

... and your nose is growing!

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Gee Steve

I don't know how many times I have posted here that I was proud of having not voted for a single FC commissioner that was presently serving. That changed recently as Oddo won and I voted for him! Hurray! Don't know how I could ever voted for Steele when I don't live in Fayetteville.

As far as backpedaling goes, you must be thinking of your stands on district voting, TDK, Westside annexation or Hearn's sole reason for being commissioner is to qualify for the FC defined benefit plan.

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Backpeddling Steve?

Just answer the question regarding the allegation YOU made against Commissioner Hearn, did you fabricate, spin, prevaricate, or as Hutch says simply tell a lie?

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Ms. Mudcat to you, Josh

Don't hold your breath about me or others on here losing the screen names. Ain't gonna happen. You seem, new, young, idealistic and very naive and a Brown supporter on top of all that. Way back in the dark ages before this forum existed, a guy named Steve Brown was given unlimited space in the local newspaper to spew his anti-establishment views. It was poor journalism, but sensational enough that he use this platform to run for mayor and sort of win. I say sort of because he had no serious opposition. Everyone just stayed home on election day except Brown's supporters who bought into his straw man arguments about corruption at every level of Peachtree City government and even it's social and business community. He got elected and spent 4 years on an unprecedented witch hunt that cost several people their jobs and many innocent spouses and children were hurt. Best guess is 30 suffered economically, 2 died and the reputation of Peachtree City in the business and economic development was severely tarnished.

You use your own name Josh and when you eventually part ways with Steve Brown as virtually everyone does - good luck.

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Mudcat you forgot ...

I also caused two category 4 hurricanes, 5 tornadoes, a severe drought in the 90's and an overabundance of Japanese Beetles in 2004.

In 2005,there were nine house fires - all my fault. Three convenience stores were robbed and I had something to do with all of them.

John McCain's lost presidential bid - my fault too. I am sad to say the fall of Greek economy is on my back too. Oh, and the latest unemployment numbers, had they been down, would have been my responsibility as well.

Of course Mudcat and Nuk do nothing - their anonymous. :)

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Muddy Kitty, those are some pretty strong accusations----I

have lived in PTC for over 30 years and have never heard of Steve Brown being accused of being responsible for 2 people dying. Please elucidate--pretty heavy stuff--people lost their jobs---hmm, maybe---30 suffered economically--hmm, maybe---PTC rep tarnished----hmm, maybe but 2 people died------or do you just mean that during his time in office two people just died of natural causes. You make some pretty outrageous statements here from time to time but this is one that I think you need to back up.

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If SB can make stuff up/change his mind with the wind

Why does it matter what anyone says?

I don't see him backing things up.

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Give me a break. Please share

Give me a break.

Please share your example of 2 dying because Mr. Brown was mayor of PTC.

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My apology

MS. Mudcat it will be then.

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We've a debate with Hearn for 4the long years

The citizens said balanced budgets are good -- Commissioner Lee Hearn said no.

The citizens said no more deficit spending -- Commissioner Hearn has done it for 4 years.

The citizens wanted open government -- Commissioner Hearn gave us nobid contracts and secret votes for items not on an agenda.

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Hey Steve

Answer the querys below.

Or STHU and try to show some class.

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Muddy Cat, Nuk and Spyglass

Come to the Board of Commissioners meeting this week and ask the question of Lee Hearn yourself during the public comment section. Let's have that discussion.

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SB, you made claims here

Answer here, if it is not too much trouble.

Crickets....

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Hearn's 4-year debate with Brown and others

Not sure what the meaning of "we" is in your diatribe, but by any chance did you ever hear Hearn say the Fayette Count Commissioners were included in the defined benefit retirement plan? Or did you ever hear anyone say it. Besides yourself? How about it answerman.

I'm thinking you know how dorky everybody thinks you are and you are just giving us a head fake by opposing Hearn and pimping for Barlow. What you really want is for the Brown-haters to vote the other way - Huddleston and Hearn. I may just do that. Man, this political stuff is really complicated.

I'm pretty sure you are going to be the next Commission Chair, so why don't you just back off, give yourself and the rest of us a break for 3 weeks and just shut up for a while.Then you can be our very own Barack Obama, ruler of Fayette County and all around joke machine. Seems easy to me.

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mudcat: You're obviously a hater

"I'm pretty sure you are going to be the next Commission Chair, so why don't you just back off, give yourself and the rest of us a break for 3 weeks and just shut up for a while.Then you can be our very own Barack Obama, ruler of Fayette County and all around joke machine. Seems easy to me."

If u want Steve Brown(or his acolytes) to shut up, ask him about his diatribe on district voting:
http://archive.thecitizen.com/node/26339

or about his claim that the only reason(his words) Lee Hearn is running for re-election is to qualify to participate in FC's pension plan. He suddenly is real quiet on either of those subjects. It's like an instant muzzle.

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Steve Brown makes yet another false accusation...then runs away

You got all over Mr. Drake for calling you dishonest but you cannot answer a really simple question: does Lee Hearn if he wins re-election qualify for the FC pension plan or not? You have stated here 3 times that Lee Hearn is only running for re-election for that very reason. The FC HR Director has apparently said that no elected commissioner gets to participate in the plan. So....which is it?

It's a really simple question that anyone with an IQ above room temperature should be able to answer. You made that highly questionable claim, now back it up.

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Steve Brown
NUK_1 wrote:

You got all over Mr. Drake for calling you dishonest but you cannot answer a really simple question: does Lee Hearn if he wins re-election qualify for the FC pension plan or not? You have stated here 3 times that Lee Hearn is only running for re-election for that very reason. The FC HR Director has apparently said that no elected commissioner gets to participate in the plan. So....which is it?

It's a really simple question that anyone with an IQ above room temperature should be able to answer. You made that highly questionable claim, now back it up.

How about it Steve?

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Hello NUK, My name is Josh

Hello NUK,

My name is Josh Bloom. I am another interested citizen here and enjoy entertaining multiple debates. One problem is that I don't know who you are. Please let me know who you are so we could debate ideas...and God forbid maybe even change one anothers opinion.

Josh

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Hi Josh, My name is NUK

I am ready to debate and discuss ideas of any kind. Go for it!

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Well, Mr. Nuk I am a Steve

Well, Mr. Nuk I am a Steve Brown supporter, so far, and believe that he has the best interest of Fayette County in mind. I see the two of you sparring quite a bit and it is difficult for me to put weight behind your ideas when you don't use your real name on these posts.

I have been taught that when you boil down integrity to the roots you get a mans name and handshake. So since we can't shake hands over electrons I would appreciate knowing your name to put some validity behind your ideas.

Josh

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Josh, evidently you are not aware that in the past damage has

been done to a fellow blogger. A few years ago an intelligent, kind, well informed and well educated gentleman innocently gave out too much information about himself to a cunning, deceptive fellow blogger who had different views. This person caused the blogger to lose his position as a professor due to half-truths, etc. that the vindictive blogger sent to his employers. As a result this person lost all his benefits leaving his family in a dire situation during a trying time for his family. If I am not mistaken this has happened to more than one person on this site. Therefore, some of us choose not to give out our personal information. It is not required by TheCitizen to use you own name to blog but the newspaper does have that information on each person who posts.
I do not know why Nuk chooses to use his blogger name, maybe it is just because he wants to--whatever reason, he is an aboveboard, intelligent person and one I would venture to say could be trusted. I would hope that your would accept the fact that some choose not to divulge their own names just as we choose to accept the fact that you sign your own name--at least, we assume it is your name as you have stated so.

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Josh: Nice thoughts

In a perfect world, maybe what you think would be all OK. It ain't that world here.

There was a poster here named "muddle" a few years ago that lost his job for posting some really non-controversial thoughts that some how angered a couple of real nut-jobs that stalked him offline and sent them to his employer. Muddle is a religious and family man but somehow he wasn't religious ENOUGH for the crazies who drove him out of town and got him fired. Muddle seemed to be only 99.999% pure enough for the crazies. It was a real disgrace.

A member of our armed forces and a person I am proud to know has had his comments sent to his superiors trying to get him major heat because he dares to be some kind of a moderate Democrat. He no longer posts here for that and other reasons like the witch hunt done on Presberg and others who don't "believe" 100% enough for the crazies.

I've had posts from here sent to my employer 3 years ago and also stalked offline,even using the name NUK. It wasn't catastrophic for me like it was Muddle, but it was a headache I didn't need.

Now, please tell me how you can't comprehend someone wanting to stay anonymous here? I'll gladly shake your hand at some coffee shop as I have before with other members here, but save me your lecture on integrity unless you already knew everything above.

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Josh

I have participated on this blog for years. I started by using my own name. Nuk has expressed the truth. I started using a pseudonym after 'muddle' was attacked. I continue, for I am retired and there is very little one can do to restrict my free speech . Many of my ideas/opinions are contrary to those expressed by some of the participants. The debate is healthy when based on opinions expressed in a reasonable manner. One can learn a great deal from those who have a different
perspective . Enjoy the exchange - but protect yourself and your family. It's your choice. Welcome.

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Sorry, Nuk, I didn't see your post before I replied. As usual,

you were able to express your feelings much better than I. I know you need no one defending you. Take care.

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MYTMITE: Hope you are doing well!

We need another coffee get together soon and cool-off all the anger around here now that TSPLOST has happily failed :)

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Doing as well as can be expected for an old broad--thanks for

asking. Ready for a coffee or whatever---would enjoy getting to see everybody again. Maybe we can even convince Kevin if we give him enough time. Talked to him once--about time I gave him another call. Guess we had all better start saving up our pennies for this coffee as it sure seems EFDrake is going to be a no-show--no pay--knew he would renege. Guess his coffers are low as T-SPLOST has nothing to offer. Have a good night.

PS Maybe Mr. Bloom likes coffee and/or good conversation and will join us.

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Coffee

Still waiting for a time and place. And, of course, my offer of "winner pays" still stands.

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Okay, Elfie, you have the time and place--now the rest is up to

you. Will you be wearing a flower in your lapel or is that actually a pic of you, and we will recognize that smile--or are you smiling at all these days?

P>S> No cameras or hidden microphones allowed. LOL

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Ah, Elfie, you remember I changed the rules--you are familiar

with that aren't you? Wondered if you were going to come back on the site--thought maybe you had decided to take a plunge off that dock you enjoy so much. Anyway, even tho you are the one with the big bucks, I am sure we can all put a few coins in and get enough together to buy you a small (or grande, since I think in their world grande is small) regular coffee. We are all so happy that T-SPLOST has gone bye-bye that we might even spring for a latte.
As for date, I leave that up to those with a stricter schedule and busier life---and I promise no one will pick on you unless you bring up a subject that bears responding to and then it is no holds barred! So far, everyone I have met who has shown up has been someone you would be happy to call a friend--regardless of different views, etc.

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Mr. Drake - Winner pays

Well I haven't had the opportunity to come to one of these coffee events but would thoroughly enjoy discussing ideas on how you could spread some concrete without robbing everyone for the benefit of the few. Of course, this means that you would actually have to change the way you think. You actually would have to think out of the box. Hmmmm.....based on your past posts I would give that very low odds.

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PTC-O & Coffee Events

Au Contraire--you HAVE had the opportunity but for whatever reason, you couldn't make it. But fear not--both you and Mr. Drake will be treated with courtesy, just like all others who attend.

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AHG - You're

rigtht of course, I am much more civil than how I sometimes sound on these pages. However, much to the chagrin of many, my political philosophy remains the same and it is based on individual freedom, even Mr. Drake's freedom to associate with his capitalist croneys.

Perhaps I won't be traveling at the same time as your next coffee. I would enjoy mingling with DM too, and catch up on how she is enjoying her summer.

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PTCO - and others

Summer is going fine - except for challenges with a relative's health. I'm sincere when I say I'd love to join you guys for coffee - but Aug. 11 is the Democrats meeting at 9:00. ( I know, I know, that doesn't affect most here! :-) )
Enjoy - and maybe next time?

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DM, I am beginning to think you are really Southernbelle posting

under a different name--she too was always elusive. LOL Just kidding---would really like to meet you though--think it would be interesting.

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Mytmite & Attendance

Oh no, DM has always found a reason NOT to attend.

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Cy & Southernbelle

Naw, I remember Southernbelle and she's nowhere close! Oh, I'll be there next Saturday!

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Mytimite

I don't remember a 'Southernbelle" - I would be ID'd as from Southern California. :-) I understand why Cy wouldn't have the Democrats meeting on his calendar - LOL. Maybe next time. Have fun! (I think Cy has id'd me - so ask him if he thinks I'm also 'southernbelle'.

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Davids mom and ID'd

Honestly, I haven't ..really. :-)

As for this next Saturday, it's Mytmite and the "fat spandexed one." We'll need more to reach critical mass.

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Darn it, I didn't have the Demo party/meeting on my calendar. I must have missed that for some reason. ;-)

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Coffee

How about next Saturday (Aug 11) at PTC Starbucks - Publix - 0900 till.........

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If the Good Lord's willing and the creeks don't rise-----

I will be there with bells on. Okay, enough of that----I will be there anxious to see my 'old' friends and to meet new.

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MYTMITE & "Bells on"

Please, no loud noises at 9am!

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Now, now, PTO, I have just finished telling Elfie that we are

all a nice group and here you go picking on him. We can afford to be magnamous since we did win (you were against the dreaded T-SPLOST weren't you?) Anyway, be nice to him and don't give him a hard time---then when he comes to the coffee if he starts spouting T-SPLOST we can throw him to the wolves.

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MYTMITE -- Mr Drake

I am nice.....really.

Yes, I was just slightly opposed to the TSPLOST, just ask Mr. Drake.

You see unlike Mr. Drake, I believe that you should pay for things that you use, and not force others to pay for them for you. I guess there were a whole lot of people who agreed with this too.

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Mr. Drake, a.k.a. "efdrakejr," does not have opinion. His paid lobbyist clients give him his opinions.

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You know Steve

if you want to write attacks on people in this blog then resign from office. I don't know Mr. Drake, and I didn't follow this thread. But I DO know you. You throw all sorts of accusations around about anyone and everyone (including me, and anyone else in this blog) who disagrees with you. You make degrading remarks like "His paid lobbyist clients give him his opinions." that NEVER, EVER come with ANY support or documentation. You know, even Harry Reid said he "talked to someone reliable" about Romney's taxes. You don't even do claim to have done that. You simply make stuff up and throw trash out there and see what sticks. And when anyone calls you out??? you simply clam up and fail to answer. You always fail to (as Mitt so eloquently stated) "put up or shut up."
So here is a thought for you. You were elected to represent ALL of Fayette County. I find it disgraceful that you do this by constantly harassing, insulting, accusing members of YOUR constituency.
Not that it is any surprise. Many of us tried to warn Fayette County of your behavior in office. Too bad they didn't listen.
But you know Steve, you want to be Chairman. I am sure you'll get it once the people you politic so hard for win. Could you please go back to school and take a course in Dignity? Because you are not in any way, shape, or form a "dignified" Commissioner. Your "style" (or lack of style) of leadership is an embarrassment to Fayette County.

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You have the Machiavellian part right.

They said they wanted the people to decide, but you get 30 lashes if you vote against them - about as democratic as it gets, right?

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Mr. Brown - Paid

Paid lobbyists?

Don't you have this backward? If they are paid lobbyists, I suppose it is Mr. Drake and his cronies that are giving them the money and the opinions. Seems to have worked nicely for them so far, the TSPLOST is simply a minor setback. By the way, I think our Rep. Ramsey and Senator Chance have some explaining to do on their support of this initiative, don't you? And what's all this about a "penalty" for those counties not opting into the TSPLOST? Seems pretty Machiavellian, don't you think? But then again the Prince was a pure politician, someone to admire I suppose down there under the golden dome.

The problem is that Mr. Drake has operated so long in an environment where the public dole is key to his success, he doesn't quite know how to do this on his own without taxpayer monies. We shouldn't be too hard on Mr. Drake, he is just one tiny part of a much, much larger problem.

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Nice Try Stevie

Nice try changing the subject since you can't or won't answer for your apparently baselass allegations. As one of the others so aptly put it, until you can back up your allegations, just STHU.

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I'm glad to know you consider yourself a nice guy because you come across as a self righteous turd.

Look forward to meeting you and judging for myself.

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Hey, Elfie, be nice. Even self righteous turds need love and we

love all--look how readily we reached out to invite you--or wait, did you invite yourself to begin with---and then, too, we were expecting you to pay.

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Why Mr. Drake!

Such elegant prose!

I'll bring my rubber boots!

Why don't you come with an open mind? I will, I just want to give you some ideas on how to sell some concrete.

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drake & great intro

Now that's a great way to initiate a relationship-maybe you oughta rethink that language.

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Public Forum

I hope the citizen or some other groups will sponsor a public forum for the 2 offices that are in a runoff.

Also how about an interview with the new sheriff?

Also there are a couple of places in my part of the county that are quite littered with signs. Sorry but I'm not waiting and will take them down unless they're in one of the runoffs!

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Congratulations Barry Babb

Glad to see clear heads prevail in replacing Hannah as sheriff. Barry, your job now is to rise above the behaviors you experienced following the last election for this office.

I have worked for two sheriff's offices in another state and never saw the kind of small-minded behavior exhibited by the incumbent.

Surround yourself with good, competent people in your administration and raise the bar!

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Babb

'Tip o' the spear' better not screw the pooch

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'TIP OF THE SPEAR" BABB-- I agree !

I totally agree Grizz. Much better than a desk jockey. I want a Sheriff who will restore what Randall had but lost--- people fearing to come inside the county line. Criminals very definitely avoided Fayette County and when they made a mistake they would say "I never would have done it if I had known it was Fayette County."

Now we have armed robberies of ice cream parlors and home invasions that make us look like DeKalb County.

We are with you, Barry. Set up a perimeter. Do Road Blocks after midnight, checking licenses of all traffic coming in to Fayette. Be the tip the spear. We will support you.

I am very encouraged that Barry Babb will be our Sheriff.

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Good competent people

one of whom is Thomas Mindar

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Let it be known I actually

Let it be known I actually agree with Mudcat. Mindar the Magnificent is a great cop. If I saw him coming down the driveway, I would throw down my weapon, drop to my knees and raise my arms ever so slowly. There are some good folks over there, Barry, and you know who they are. Good luck.

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Many Thanks To Everyone Who Voted

And, thank you to everyone who took the trouble to educate themselves on the issues.

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Reply to go Lee Hearn
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The Big Winners--- Bost and Brown

The Big Winners--- Bost and Brown

Election night last night was unusual for us. We usually have some disappointment but we always vote. Usually, I can't fall asleep because I can't process the results. Last night was different. We voted for all the winners, with the sole exception of tax commissioner.

On election night one conversant complained of the influence over the years of Cal Beverly. Yes, he can be caustic and stubborn but he is very direct. I did find it odd that he did not take a position in the sheriff's race but now claims to have intuited a Babb win.

Barry Babb-- his sign was in our yard-- was the only real surprise. A good man whose only criticisms were (1) Bible thumper and (2) too much front line experience. I guess Fayette County voters resoundingly took those as
GOOD attributes.

Steve Brown--- a winner in much of this. Charles Oddo's first act in office will be political hari kari if he opposes Brown as Commission Chair. Harold Bost--- yes, Cal, you are right---politics is now influenced by a four letter word: B-O-S-T. His car signs, yard signs and mailers and all his personal efforts overcame the "Boss Hogg" insults. I hope that Mr. Hofrichter, Mr. Maxwell and that house full of trial lawyers go back to where they are a little more successful--- chasing ambulances. Give Bost credit for belittling the arrogant.

And, yes, Cal we remember how and who put Steve Brown on the political map.

Finally, it will interesting to see if people like the Fayette Chamber and officials like PTC's Kim Learnard continue to lovingly embrace the ARC and mass transit.

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Robert Morgan, please

You are already stirring the nasty pot
Starting rumors and trying to cause division
Besides, Lee Hearn will not win anyway.

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Brown wants Ognio and Barlow. Why? Why, you ask

Because he can control them and get them to vote him in as Chairman of Fayette County Commission - which by the way is an automatic cake walk into ARC for him.

Huddleston and Hearn won't ever, ever, ever vote for Brown.

Ask them if you can, before you vote for or against them.

Ask Randy and Barlow if they would support the Brown clown for Commission Chair. Please ask them.

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Mudcat: It doesn't matter

Oddo, Brown and McCarty all will have seats come January 2013. Whether Ognio and Barlow both lose or split won't change that.

Brown already voted for himself to be chairman before so why wouldn't he again? In any scenario I can see, it's either 5-0, 4-1, or 3-2. I highly doubt Hearn wins anyway because most people realize that the next commission chairman will be whoever regardless of whether Loser Lee Hearn is elected or not.

I'm more concerned with getting Huddleston elected over Barlow. Hearn deserves to lose to Ognio anyway.

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Agree, NUK. Huddelston and Ognio may indeed win

Then Ognio becomes the key vote (assuming he understands what he is voting for) and Brown wins the Chair 3-2 (Og, Mac, and himself). Of course if either Hearn or Huddleston win, it become a losing proposition for the Brown clown. Let's see how and what he does the next few weeks and then vote against whatever that is. Ok?

Barlow = Brown - bad vote.
Ognio = loose cannon and impressionable - stay away from this guy.

Huddleston and Hearn keeps Brown off the Chair - good vote.

To clarify, McCarty is a Brown toadie and always votes with him and for him, So there are the 2 Pro-Brown votes. The goal here is to keep Brown out of the Chairman's Chair. Barlow puts him in it. Bad vote. Ognio may or may not - he's a loose cannon. Huddleston and Hearn will never vote for Brown. Lot's of choices.

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A more likely outcome is Hearn as commission chair

Just kidding.
The only people voting in the runoff will be hard core, long time supporters of each candidate about 30% of yesterdays voters. Wish it weren't so, but past history doesn't show much different. Hearn clearly has a better organization and Barlow has that whole church thing going for him. I am amazed that some 7,000 people voted for Hearn, but they did and that shows something. I don't think you can say that 7,000 people think Ognio is a weak candidate, this has to be about Hearn having real support and an orgaanization.

So it becomes Hearn and Barlow and Oddo with Oddo likely the one to make the first nomination for County Commission Chair - if he can outflank McCarty. I say he nominates Hearn. Now that only gets 2 votes as Barlow, McCarty and Brown will stick together and vote no, then Brown wins on the second ballot. Oddo has asserted his independence and Brown hates him. So what, badge of honor.

Only other scenario is a long shot, but maybe Huddleston starts pushing the Barlow/Brown connection and Barlow's bankruptcy (stay away from his bible-thumping, please) and converts some of his votes. She may indeed get some Smith voters as well since they were as much against Brown as they were for Smith (remember Brown beat Smith last time). She's not that far behind, so it is possible, but an awful lot of hard work for her next few weeks.

And if she wins, Oddo nominates her or she nominates him, Hearn supports either since he knows the second nominee is bound to be Brown; and Huddleston or Oddo becomes Chair. That then becomes a very interesting County Commission.

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Morgan & Scenarios

What if Stopford endorses Ognio? Might be sum mo' interesting!

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Sure, a decent % of Stopford voters could make a difference

either way. Be interesting to see what she does.

I wonder if someone will sponsor a live debate so we can examine the 4 finalists a bit more carefully. Or maybe Cal will offer up some valuable space in the newspaper for the 4 to answer his questions. Now that would be interesting. Cal does ask some good questions.

Eat Mor Chiken!

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Morgan & Live Debate

Yep, would be good--but don't give them the questions beforehand--I watched/listened to the barlow/Hearn/Ognio/Huddleston/Stopford/Oddo/Horgan session sponsored by the Chamber. They all had prepared written answers and if I had to judge on speaking ability alone, Stopford wins but that shouldn't be a singular criteria. The ability to convince others of your position is important and the lawyer SHOULD excel in that category. Of huge importance will be getting voters back to the polls. I think they should do away with that 50% deal and go with simple "candidate with most votes wins."

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Simple math--Ognio Wins

Simple math--Ognio Wins Runoff.... If half of Ms. Stopford's primary support goes to each candidate, Ognio wins handily. Hearn received 38% of the vote in the primary. He will need about 65% of Stopford's votes to beat Ognio. Why did these folks vote for Ms. Stopford in the first place? Because they wanted a change---- a change away from Hearn and company. There is no way he will double his turnout for her votes. Ognio will clearly win.

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Morgan-- Why in the world did

Morgan-- Why in the world did you support Sanderson ?

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No special reason

Don't know either of them. Maybe the wife in the court thing had something to do with it, but all I did was vote for her and McMillian. No donations, no signs, no campaigning. I admit to be completely unaware of most issues involving judges and court and county law enforcement. Have never been arrested, ticketed, sued or even been on jury duty (in GA).

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cogit: Interesting take

In two of the 3 commissioner races, the majority of voters voted for someone else than Bost's favored candidates Ognio and Barlow. Oddo beating Horgan was going to happen no matter what, regardless of any affiliations. Someone from Peachtree Station/Po-Po Village could have beaten Horgan. I don't really call that a smashing success, though all the Bost-favored faction needed was a one seat gain and obviously they have that now.

Babb beating Hannah was a very pleasant surprise and one of the big upsets in FC elections I have seen in quite a long time.

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I saved Bost's mail piece.

I saved Bost's mail piece. Why ? Because I cannot believe that every single one of his candidates won. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

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So far they have all won, but there is more

on the way - a runoff election. Barlow and Ognio may have won the vote count yesterday but as is the very nature of a runoff - each had more people voting against them than voted for them. Both have small margins and each is vulnerable. Ognio to an absolutely amazing number of Hearn supporters; Barlow even more vulnerable to Huddleston, her supporters and what I think will be a large number of Smith supporters - none of whom will support Barlow, some will stay home, but many can convert to support Huddleston.

Hard to get excited about Ognio, but getting rid of Hearn would be good. I am really pumped about Huddleston's chances and will donate money and work actively for her the next couple of weeks.

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Yer wetdreaming, Mudcat.

Yer wetdreaming, Mudcat. Statistically, any time a candidate gets 40% or more in a primary you can make book on them winning the run-off.

Who's gonna get out for the two challengers---- Jack Smith, Ken Steele and the Chamber ?

I'd pull up my Interstate "YES" sign if I were you.

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Well maybe just dreaming, you know - wishin' and hopin'

Huddleston's 39% is 264 votes less than Barlow's 40%, so I'm calling that even.

And there are more than 3,000 Smith votes out there. Most will stay home, but less than 10% of them could put Huddleston in front. This thing is a dead heat and will be interesting to watch. Me, I'm planning on working in it for Huddleston.

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Go Lee Hearn!

Since Lee Hearn and Randy Ognio are in a runoff, I hope that people will watch the Fayette County Chamber of Commerce interviews. Go to Fayettechamber.org and click on the 2012 candidate interviews. If you go to 19:40 in the interview and watch the rest of the interview, you can see the interviews of Lee Hearn and Randy Ognio. It certainly helped me decide that I didn't want Randy Ognio representing me!

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