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It’s personality election time in Peachtree City, as evidenced by the postings commenting on an otherwise rather bland letter by this year’s surviving challenger — Stephen Allen — who is trying to unseat incumbent Eric Imker.

One new anti-Allen and pro-Imker poster — Greenbelt — raised suspicions; a verification check validated the suspicion.

Thursday afternoon, I posted the following comment on TheCitizen.com:

“Greenbelt is committing identity fraud & election dirty tricks

“The Citizen has determined that the person posting as Greenbelt has posed for registration purposes as a real resident living in south Peachtree City.

“However, a phone call to that person for verification purposes has revealed that the person never signed up as Greenbelt and had no idea his real name, address and phone number had been used to scam The Citizen.

“In fact the real person is not supporting Eric Imker in the upcoming election.

“The Citizen has blocked this fraudulent user and is checking other registrations since last summer to determine if more fraud has occurred.

“The Citizen is also checking to see if any laws have been broken by this phony registration scam.

“We will be reporting more on this.”

I reported the incident to the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department, which later determined that no state laws appeared to have been broken.

Later Thursday afternoon, I received the following email:

“Dear Mr. Beverly:

“There is no need for you to further investigate who used Greenbelt today. I did.

“Am I in violation of your policy on posting, yes but I did not steal someone’s ID or use it knowing it was a fraud.

“Out of continued frustration that we have a mayor who continually lies on your blogs, a close friend provided me with, what I thought was their user name and password.

“Knowing that IP addresses are easily traceable, had I known what I learned from your post, I would never had used it. I trusted a good friend and that’s my mistake. I will not reveal who that friend is because it is their obligation to step forward as I have to you.

“Regarding the accusation I made concerning the mayor, at the next city council meeting, Dr. Pennington will advise city council that he, Paul and Skip pulled the records management system early on in the process and Eric, Kim and Vanessa did not know about it. That will be proof that the mayor continues to lie on the blogs.

“Hopefully, The Citizen will investigate that fact and if Dr. Pennington does not bring it up, then a call to ask him might be in order.

“Again, I did not use the user name and password knowing it was not legitimate but I believe it is important to notify you since my dealings with you have always been upfront and honest.

“My sincerest apologies and I will no longer post on the blogs.

“Thank you.

“Larry Sussberg”

Sussberg is a former member of the Peachtree City Planning Commission who resigned last year.

The unsuspecting person whose name was used to gain the Greenbelt registration is a retired Delta employee who supported Eric Imker two years ago in Imker’s first run for office. He said he had so many Imker signs in his yard he was afraid Code Enforcement was going to cite him.

This election cycle, the retiree is not supporting Imker, and stated that he supports Mayor Don Haddix in the mayor’s conflicts with Imker. He was shocked to learn that someone had used his name to gain a platform from which to attack Haddix and Imker’s opponent.

Sussberg already had a valid registration to post on the website, using his real name. Based on the above email and his violation of our terms of service, his privilege to blog on the website has been rescinded.

The irony is palpable: Perpetrating a lie in order to expose a “lie.” I suspect there's a lot more of that going on in this political season.

I’m still curious: Who was the “friend” who had knowledge of this Delta retiree, down to his street address and phone number?

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Imker - Greenbelt

In is still not too late for Eric Imker to disavow any knowledge or involvement in the Greenbelt deception. If he can not perform this simple act of ethics then one must assume that he has none.

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Imker - Blogless

Hello Major:

As you probably know, Imker doesn't blog on here. As far as I know, he never has commented in the forums, doesn't have an ID, and probably doesn't even read them. Since you and I are frequent visitors here, the Greenbelt fiasco is a big blip on our radar screen. For Eric however, I don't think he really places and real significance to the matter. He doesn't even consider the local papers as a big driver in political influence. His SOP has always been to camp out in various locations and talk one-on-one with the people. I know he was at the amphitheater this weekend for the "Not so Frightful Halloween" event shaking hands with the voters and giving out candy to the kids. To Imker, that IS his campaign.
Not saying he is correct in his assessment (I think it is naive), just saying that is how he is. For Eric to come onto the blogs to make a statement he wasn't involved in some underhanded scheme on a forum he doesn't participate and care about anyway, would give undue credence to a dishonest action on a medium he thinks is unimportant anyway. That would be his "strategy" on handling it, if he had a strategy. My point is, he probably hasn't even thought about it much.
Eric reminds me a little of Newt Gingrich in terms of political campaign management. He doesn't really worry about being organized or what the pundits say. He believes getting out and meeting the people, sharing his ideas, and being right in his heart is all he needs. If that doesn't get him elected, oh well. Guess he will go back to that horrible life of retirement in Peachtree City. He certainly doesn't need the money.
For instance, he has yet to say one negative thing about Allen in the election, despite Allen's repeated attacks on him. If I were advising him, I would tell him to rip Allen to shreds for lack of experience and being aligned with Haddix. But he is content to sit up at the library and shake peoples hands and talk about the weather. Be careful not to ask him about city finances as he knows every detail about it and what needs to be done. It might be a long conversation.
All that said, I guess that is why I like him. Peachtree City needs Imker a lot more than he needs us.

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madmike - Imker

Perhaps Imker doesn't blog (at least under his own name) but he's sure not above writing letters to the editor - not a whole lot of difference there. If Imker is not "greenbelt" or somehow involved in this deception then he needs, at a minimum, to pick up the phone and call Cal Beverly. Otherwise, he leaves a whole lot of people with the impression that this is merely more of his backdoor sniping.

To be honest about it Allen has not impressed me a whole lot but Imker HAS left me with a negative opinion of Imker. In any election these days a lack of experience may be seen as a positive. I hear the phrase "reelect no one" all the time.

I haven't seen anything other than accusations that Allen is aligned with Don Haddix but even if he was it would still be preferable to an alliance with Cyndi Plunket. Plunket had at least a 50/50 chance of beating Haddix for the Mayors office until she "mispoke" herself (repeatedly).

Imker still has a small amount of time to assure PTC voters that his hands are clean in the identity theft department.

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MajorMike - some good points

I really don't think Imker blogs at all (under his real name or other), not because he is holier than thou, I just think he considers the whole forum thing fruitless. He does write letters to the editor, but again, at least during this campaign, I have yet to see him say anything negative.
You are right on in regards to the "boot out the incumbent" mentality being rampant. Quite frankly I have adopted it myself in state and national elections. Rather than the default being the incumbent as it used to be, the default in my mind goes to the challenger, unless the incumbent has proven to me that he or she deserves another term... a shift of the burden of proof I guess.
Allen's alignment with Haddix is obvious to me. The initial letters "Why I am Running Against Imker" etc. really seemed to sound like words right off the pen of Haddix. His support of DAPC and the Mayor's sudden increased editorials attacking Imker during this time of the year, is proof in the pudding. I will say that I believe Allen will be a little more independent than Sturbaum and might challenge the Mayor down the road. I leave that possibility open.
Agreed about Plunket. I didn't support her either.
In terms of Imker still having time to assure PTC voters that his hands are clean in the Greenbelt situation, more accurately it should be said that Imker still has time to assure PTC voters "who pay any attention to these blogs" that he is clean. Right or wrong, those of us on here represent the most vocal of the citizens for sure, but the blogs don't reach even a small percentage of the voting population. That's why Imker probably won't respond.

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Haddix: Wrong Yet Again, madmike

http: //www.thecitizen.com/articles/07-15-2010/ptc-council-remains-property-tax-impasse

Just one example.

He has a double standard about his pension versus city employee pensions.

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Mayor

Are you actually comparing the service of a city employee with that of an individual who has worn the uniform of his country? I'm sure those blue star families of Peachtree City would like to hear. Please tell us about your vast military experience, endless deployments away from family, and your selfless devotion to duty.

Please do so because it might just have as much credibility as your referral about having your college degree.

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Haddix: No Mike

I am saying many people serve the country in different ways. I am saying pensions are earned in many ways. I am saying there is something very wrong with people saying only certain people in certain fields earn pensions, others do not.

While not career I did server for 3 years over seas, away from family. As well other obligations kept me away for months in addition. I get it.

Military duty most assuredly is special and earns special considerations. But does that mean police, fire and other such personnel do not?

I supervised in a steel mill where there were deaths and severe injuries annually. An extremely tough and ofter dangerous set of jobs. They didn't earn their pensions which, by the way, many lost due to bankruptcies?

As well, concerning Imker, he had an office job stateside working. So even within the military you cannot simply say being in the military means endless deployments over seas. You know better than that.

I fully support military pensions. It angers me many vets get booted out when they get injured in the line of duty and do not receive proper medical care when returned to civilian life. They gave up a part of their body and the rest of their lives without proper compensation.

My goal was to get you and Imker to angrily defend your pensions while being so willing to strip others of theirs. It worked.

As well Imker did income, marketing or had to meet a payroll. Sturbaum and I have and do not support his Budgeting. Anyone who says businesses and homeowners do not look at tax rates when looking where to locate somewhere truly demonstrates they are not businessmen.

Anyone who say an extra buck on a room does not impact where large groups stay for multiple days demonstrates a total lack of understanding.

Mike, you have earned your pension. So has Imker. But that does not qualify YOU or Imker to be experts on business or running a city government.

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Mayor - Education, Experience?

Don, can you enlighten us as to your real-world experience in running budgets and your educational background? So far, all you have presented is that you were a supervisor at a steel mill. That doesn't really speak volumes about running the city budget.
You said you spent three years overseas but fail to mention why, what your capacity was, only to say it wasn't military. Can you elaborate?
What is your highest level of education. Do you have a degree in accounting, economics, or what? From what institution is it from?
Education and business experience are the key metrics in determining anyone's level of competence in creating and managing a complex budget. Eric's experience and education is vast and impressive. I would like to know yours as well.

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Good questions madman. Little late though

Not blaming you personally, please understand - but methinks it would be better if those questions were posed a couple years ago before we elected this mayor instead of the 2 experienced trained professionals also running - one an attorney and an experienced councilperson and the other a financial planner. Probably be better if we got more than a 10% turnout in local elections.

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Right on RWM

Of course you are right. My interest and involvement in local politics consisted of reading the papers and educated voting. I have only become involved after realizing how incompetent Mayor Haddix has become and what it will cost the city if he gets his way. Shame on me and all the voters who allowed it to happen.

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Mayor

Tell me Don, when have I defended my pension? Or could it be more double speak from you? Currently, four or five year long deployments are the norm for career soldiers today within a ten year period, but you make it sound as if all city employees have it just as tough.

Please don't try to convey that YOU are an expert on running a city government, what with the lawsuits, etc.

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Point Mayor?

What's your point? The gist of this post was that Eric doesn't blog or read here and thus would never see MajorMike's request about the Greenbelt fiasco, much less respond. Unlike you Don, he doesn't spend his days and nights in a constant tizzy about what some nameless blogger might be saying about him. He stays positive and above such childishness. You could learn a lot from his approach.
In regards to finances, Eric has the education and business experience to properly manage the city budget. You don't. It is evident by your fear of using spreadsheets and inability to be able to discuss the topic with even an elementary level of understanding. It goes right over your head. Imker gets it, you don't.
PTC needs Imker more than he needs us. In contrast, the citizens are just riding out your term to its natural end in light of the biggest election mishap in Peachtree City (you becoming mayor) since Cowan and Farr turned the first spade of dirt in Shakerag.

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FWIW, I can't bring myself to believe such, but you are entitled to your opinion.
Additionally, with the economy continuing to slide, this town can use all the fiscal help/experience it can get. We know that the mayor has no such experience, Mr Dienhart simply states that he's trying to "get along", and Mr Allen has provided absolutely nothing about what experience he brings to the table.
It was nice meeting you yesterday.

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Actually Mike,

I have stated, repeatedly, that I want to get our city's best and brightest in a room together as, a first step to reviving economic development. This was Todd Strickland's idea, and I am championing it. I support giving our citizens and local businessman a voice in helping us "right the ship". Eric would be welcome at this summit, regardless of the election results.

Both Steve and I come from IT backgrounds, I am sure we are both as capable as Councilman Imker when it comes to manipulating numbers in spreadsheets. I am also committing to take the state provided training on municipal budgets. To my knowledge Eric has never done that. I will also rely on our award winning accounting department, as Eric has done in the past. I promise, the budget will be in good hands.

As with most things, the truth lies in the middle in regards to our council wars. It's not Councilman Imker's fault, and it's not Mayor Haddix's fault. Both of them share the blame.

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George

When you have completed those lessons at Clayton State on municipal budgets you will have attained the same level as the mayor. Certainly, you don't consider him an expert. My money is on someone who has dealt in that arena for years, not someone who has no comprehension of a five-year plan.

You are beginning to sound like the new hire college graduate trying to lecture the owner of a company on how his company should be run. Were you not listening when Mr Cowan spoke for less than ten minutes and said much more and made much more sense than the Georgia Tech professor did all evening? You do remember that presentation, don't you? My point being experience, something neither you nor Mr Allen bring to the table.

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experience

Mike, I said that I will rely on our accounants and training. I also have some experience. As a consultant I just completed an analysis that will potentially save a Fortune 500 company seven figures. My point was Eric is not the only one capable of analyzing numerical data. Additionally, he is not running against Haddix. The mayors abilities have nothing to do with this election.

This is a crucial election for Peachtree City. We can continue on the same path for another two years, or we can move forward. It's up to the electorate.

Mr Cowan did make perfect sense. He also admitted that his original plans for this city were completely different than what we wound up with. He said he still regrets not building out a downtown, for example. Your example perfectly illustrates my point. Things change. What was right 50 years ago isnt necessarily the right solution now. Just like what was right two years ago may not be what we need now. Our city manager, accountants and council have cut the fat from the budget. Now it's time to grow revenue.

One last thing. I saw your l2ed from a couple of years ago. You brought up many good points. I hope to see you at the economic development forum when it happens.

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George, Haddix, this election

George:

On one hand, you say that the Mayor's abilities have nothing to do with this election and then on the other state that this is a crucial election. It doesn't take a leap of faith to see the absolute connection between the Mayor's abilities and how they will come into play based on the outcome of this election.
Regardless of the Mayor throwing himself front and center in this council race through his blogs, like this one, and his editorials slamming Imker, the outcome of this race will determine if the Mayor can get a majority of support on council for his agenda. If he does, it will be his experience and direction (thus, his abilities) that will be relied on to direct and implement the budget. Without Imker, our experience on council is the Mayor's from his duty as a steel mill supervisor, your education in taking a class at Clayton State, and Allen's with an IT and sales background. Quite frankly, your good intentions are fraught with vulnerability. You have already shown this in your being led by the nose to support the DAPC and then Allen, and it indicates you will be easily manipulated by Haddix. As Mike King has eluded, I don't know if you have the backbone to stand toe-to-toe with the Mayor.
Allowing the Mayor to have himself and two yes men in council scares the hell out of me and our city's future is at risk.

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I see how this works now...

Eric attacks those he sees as opponents through his supporters. This was a personal attack. You did not hold me accountable for my actions (as Steve is doing with Eric). You attempted to criticize me based on how you think I will act. This is another typical play out of the Imker playbook. That playbook, really only has two plays. "Blame the Mayor" and the real Hail Mary play- "Anyone who is against me is with the Mayor" I told you I will not be manipulated by anyone- you included. I also said I will hold those accountable as needed. You are accountable for your actions. If you are going to speak in a public forum, you are not going to cut up and manipulate what I say. I did not say I plan to rely on just "one course from Clayton State" and I sure as hell an not anyone's yes man. Your letter has proved one thing- you (and by extension Eric's campaign) are the ones relying on personal attacks. They appear here every day. You (and by extension Eric's campaign)are relying on half truths and "cherry picking" partial statements out of peoples replys. Both Steve and I are have IT management experience- budgets included. This has been the one and only time I will reply to a personal attack.

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Mr. Dienhart, trying to talk intelligently to MadMike is an

exercise in futility. No matter what one says he skews it to fit his agenda. All you have to do is go back and read all of his posts to everyone and you will see he is an empty shirt--filled in by someone else to push their agenda. As I wrote on here to you the first time you blogged, there are certain people on here who spend all their time discrediting anyone who is not Imker--and MadMike is the worst-and should be the least effective because he never makes any sense. Though every now and then you can see the strings attached to the puppet, when his blogs actually have two coherent words strung together. This blowhard is like that gnat that keeps buzzing around your head--too ineffectual to do much damage but an annoyance to contend with. I do believe he has met his match in you--I wish you success in this election. You sound like someone who can handle the situation.

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Mytmite & "success in the election"

He doesn't have an opponent--he wins by default!!

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Sorry, should have stated that more succinctly and correctly--I

meant to wish him success on his term on council. You have my permission to issue ten lashes with a wet noodle the next time we see each other. But then, from the way MadMike is going after Dienhart, you would think he was opposed--I mean Dienhart was opposed in this election--MadMike is always opposed to anyone who is not his buddy Eric.

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George - that's a start

Nice to see a little fire in the belly. Direct that to the Mayor and his mode of operation and you will be off to a nice start. Your activities and opinions before you even take office are indicative that you will cater to the wishes of the Mayor. Blame me for that if you want, it was you who decided to take that direction. You are simply experiencing the fall out from a constituency that despises the Mayor (one that I warned you would happen if you aligned yourself with him).

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Experience

Quite true that Mr. Imker is not running against Haddix. This is much like the last national election where the Republicans/Tea Party suggested the results were a referendum on Obama. Haddix has made it clear it is his intent to reverse votes if he can get the 3/2 position, so unfortunately Haddix’s performance/actions and the voting outcome are not mutually exclusive. It appears from the verbiage that Allen is a Haddix clone. You have been largely out of the limelight since you are unopposed. I can only hope you are independent minded, although that is starting to fade. If what Mr. Imker truly did was to dump data in spreadsheets, then my children could have accomplished this – analysis is much more than “manipulating numbers in spreadsheets”. Experience, credibility and character are what we need. I guess time will tell if we actually get it.

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Amen, if the shoe was on the other foot, "they" would be scream-

ing for the opponent to disavow any knowledge of the whole affair. Forget Denmark, something ain't smelling too good right here in ole PTC.

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Larry, Larry, Larry

what could you be thinking?

You have revealed your character, or should I say Cal has revealed your character.

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Cal, in all honesty

It is not hard to get someone's name and street address and telephone number. It is also not hard to set up a fake email and tie it to that person. Technology empowers us to be bad.

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It's your blog Cal

run it as you wish.

FWIW, I didn't know until I read below that Roundy/$aday or whatever he went by was kicked off, I did notice a lack of rambling post by him. FWIW, I'm glad he's gone.

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If one is to believe Mr.

If one is to believe Mr. Sussburg at this point, his "friend" actually set up the illegitimate screen name and password while not sharing the fact that it was, in truth, phony. While Mr. Sussburg's actions may or may not rise to criminal level, I would suspect that said friend's actions do.

It is unfortunate that Mr. Sussburg's hatred, legitimate or not, of the Mayor has led him to this point. The repercussions of this deception will most like extend far beyond these blog pages.

I believe that it would be prudent of Eric Imker to come forward and assure PTC voters that he was not the aforementioned "friend" and that he had no part in this deception. Given the circumstances, I wonder if he can do that. As I've stated before; "I know the personality type and I recognize the tactics" - I like neither.

Our actions, good or bad, usually have a way of coming full circle. This one certainly did.

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"I will no longer post

on the blogs." Seems Cal took care of that with his block, not the other way around. However, how many letters to the editor from this fraudulent user are forthcoming? Oh, let us all guess.

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Cal, very disappointing

Very disappointing news Cal. I appreciate Larry doing the right thing in the end, but I don't understand why there was a need to have this debate with the Mayor under an assumed, and apparently fraudulent, name. We all know Larry has been very vocal in his opposition to the Mayor (as I have) under his real name. Not sure what the purpose was here, and is uncharacteristic of a leader and an important business owner in the community. Just damn.

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Actually,

What it reveals in character. Nothing more, nothing less

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Wedge, I think it shows a lack of character---

Too bad--and for what? Was it worth it?

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Sussberg, Wedge, & Character

Wasn't it him who was recently excoriating someone for using a term derogatory to Jewish people?

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AHG - you are correct

That was Roundabout who used the term, and got booted off here for life courtesy of Cal's big left foot. That's the way it should have been. With all the other issues we have playing in this sandbox together, there isn't room for derogatory racial or religious slurs. In my humble opinion, there isn't room for it in any "civilized discussion" (although I stretch the meaning of that phrase here). :)

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Wedge

We agree.

That said, would all of those posting on behalf of Mayor Haddix and Commissioner Brown identify themselves? One best not hold their breath.

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It is sad

That the write-in candidate "None of the Above" will most likely win

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Well, so much for the false piety in using his own name on the

blog. Just goes to prove that means nothing at all when you can try to sneak in the back door and steal someone else's information to gain access. When I read back on Sussburg's blogs I want to regurgitate (hey Mikey, that's the lady-like way of saying it makes me want to puke.) Wonder how many more of these impostors are on this site. But, not to worry, seeing as how Cal knows how to get his man or woman, they don't stand a chance. Good job Cal, now go after the 'friend' Slushburg does not want to rat on. See there is honor among-----. Wonder how forthcoming he would have been if he had not known that Cal was about to out him?

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MYTMITE

as an impostor yourself... isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? Or in lady-like terms, a pile of BS?

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Oh, Mikey, you just don't have a clue do you? I am not hiding

anything. Mr. Beverly has all my information on file and anytime he deems it appropriate to reveal that information he has my permission to do so. Since you seem to think you know it all, you should be aware that it is an accepted practice for bloggers to use chosen names, other than their own--mostly to protect ourselves from the likes of Sussbergs, etc. If Mr. Beverly and TheCitizen felt otherwise they would insist users use their legal names. If Mr. Beverly and others are okay with the status quo why does it bother you? You keep beating this dead horse--but that is what you do best. I do not see you coming down on your buddy Sussberg for his deception--this man who proved his machismo by blogging under his own name while stealing someone else's identity to try to sway public opinion. Where is the bravery or honor there? Sorry, Mikey, once again, you aren't even close and definitely no cigar.

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MYTMITE Just apply the logic hun

Unlike the issue you have with telling time, this is pretty easy. Read slowly and maybe you will understand. You made the following request of Mr. Beverly:

Mr. Beverly, it would be interesting and beneficial to those posting on here to learn who this impostor is and what connection they may have to a candidate. Knowing the identity of this imposter and any others you discover will help the honest posters on this site to determine who is lying and doing so as a means to harm a candidate and the city by these lies.

By definition MYTMITE, you are an impostor (one that assumes hidden or false name or title for the purpose of hiding their true identity).
The fact that Mr. Beverly has your identity doesn't mean squat. You asked Cal this information on impostors for all of us to see, and I just wonder why that wouldn't apply to you as well?

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Mike, I think I owe you an apology.

Once we rescued a stray Heinz 57 mutt. He was adorable and we decided to give him a home. This dog just could not learn even the simplest commands--he barked when the wind blew, he barked at anything and nothing at all. My children named him Shadow for obvious reasons. After months and months of trying to get this animal to learn even the basics, we conferred with our vet. He informed us that some dogs, just like some individuals, have brains that are just not wired to accept and process information. Because he had won the hearts of the whole family we kept him and accepted his short comings, and he lived with us until old age got him.

I have come to accept the fact that you, too, share this problem, therefore I owe you an apology for expecting you to 'get' even the simplest of things. Shadow's saving grace was his cuteness, kindness and his steadfast desire to please. Alas, as far as I am concerned you share none of Shadow's endearing attributes.

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Exhausting MYTMITE

Any chance you can ever stay on the topic and just answer the question, rather than going into boring diatribes about dogs, time zones, and whatever other random thought pass your brain? Geez,you have a knack for using 500 words for what most people can say in 10.
The question is: Since you advocate (to Cal) that "impostors" on these blogs should have their identity revealed, including what candidates they support, to the rest of us, as an impostor yourself, why wouldn't the request apply to you?

Try to limit your answer to a small pamphlet this time :)

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MadMike, sorry I do not know any words small enough for you

to comprehend. I feel you have more than exhausted this impostor foolishness of yours. Let Mr. Beverly decide whether or not people on here who have proven they are who and what the say they are should identify themselves. After all it is his newpaper and his rules.

As for the length of my blogs, I feel reading these blogs is the extent of your reading so I wanted you to get the benefit of as many words as possible.

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Much Better MYTMITE

Because I like you I am going to give you an "A" this time for brevity (not "bravery" mite, so you might need to look that one up). A "C" for content, and as usual a "D" for relevance.

Remember:

1: Stay on point (don't let your mind drift)
2: Make sure what you are typing is relevant to the subject at hand
3: Keep it short
4: Don't tackle tasks that are too challenging for you (like time)
5: And be sweet MYTMITE, you are a great grandmother right?

I am seeing improvements already, we can get you there!

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MM, your giving anyone lessons in writing is like Mr. Ed

attempting to give Seattle Slew lessons in horse racing, the height of arrogance and ignorance. I think you need to take a rest, let your "battery" recharge and try again.

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MYTMITE, may I just say..

"Woof, woof"! :)

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Mad Mike
madmike wrote:

By definition MYTMITE, you are an impostor (one that assumes hidden or false name or title for the purpose of hiding their true identity).

Your definition is off. An imposter uses another's name and/or reputation to perform a deceptive act. If I were to hack your login and post under your sobriquet, then I would be an imposter. The use of screen names is much more in the tradition of nom de plume than any other thing. Expressing one's "opinion" on a blog is not a deceptive act.

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Wedge, you will only get a headache trying to get MadMike to

'get'it. He is so puffed up over the fact that he uses his own name he cannot see reason. Of course, Sussberg showed us just how honorable that can make someone--keep posting under your own name and steal someone else's to do your dirty work. MM refuses to admit there is a difference using a blogger name with our correct information on file at TheCitizen and being deceptive and using someone else's information to spread lies. I think I have an explanation for his stubborness--see my Apology blog to him--if this is not the reason then we can only assume he is too stubborn to admit he is wrong.

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O.K. Wedge...BUT

I agree that the deception aspect can be a part of the definition, but it is not required.

All persons who use a fake name in an effort to hide their identity for deceptive purposes are impostors;
However, all impostors do not have to use or intend to use the fake name for deception to be an impostor, as long as that possibility exists.

So, in your case or in MYTMYTE's case, we don't know what your intentions are. MYTMITE can jump up and down, get endorsements, tell me her age, sing songs about squirrels or get a written embossed letter from President Obama, but as long as she hides behind the moniker MYTMITE, instead of her real name, she could be using the name to be deceptive and in fact might be doing so. We don't know... thus she is an impostor.

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Madmike

Being deceptive/impostor has nothing to do with someone blogging under their real name or for me a name I like. Not sure how long you have been computer illiterate but this (make up a screen name) came early on before bloggs where so prevalent.

The name I use was used in High school some 20+ years ago. It is a name I prefer when dealing with friends.

Not sure who put you in charge with making the rules/guidelines on what name people must post under to be legit.

Most of us have been here for some time and have been okay in discussion with the screen names we use. You appear to be the only cat in the room that has an issue with it.

Get over it.

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T-MAN

I put myself in charge of the rules and guidelines. I am the one that can rule you legit or illegitimate. I my friend am, "too legit to quit." You T-man, are illegitimate.
Now, about the statement "Being deceptive/impostor has nothing to do with someone blogging under their real name or for me a name I like..." That is simply an incorrect statement. See points A, B, C above.
Maybe I am the only cat in the room that has an issue with it... but I have a long tail and you are in a rocking chair so watch how you rock.

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Mad Mike

Since I do not know who you are, only "Mad Mike", I feel this entire blog string to be a bit puzzling. Words have meanings that should be followed. Your use of "imposter" gives a meaning that is offputting and assuming. I cannot use your definition. If one posts under their given name and still spouts garbage; they may not be an imposter to you, but most likely are an a*&hat to me. :)

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Wedge: It's Impostor

No wonder you can't define it... you can't spell it! It's "impostor" with an "o" my friend. Didn't your spell-check catch that? An "imposter" would be one who levies a tax or something, if its even a word as to "impost" means to levy I think. Your buddy MYTMITE made the same mistake but I didn't correct her in fear she would go into a 16 page rant of how her dog ate the letter "O" on her refrigerator magnets.
Words are important and their meanings should be followed. We agree there. You must have missed my long debate about the meaning of the word "racist" a few weeks ago. Now that is a word that no one seems to use appropriately.
Now back to "impostor." Unless you can prove without a doubt that the person has no deceitful intentions, then by using the fake name, the person is an impostor through presumption. If I walk by a fence, and a dog snarls and shows his teeth at me, then I can say that is one mean dog. I don't need him to bite me to prove it, his other actions already told me this.

Oh, by the way. I am Mike LaTella, mlatella@bellsouth.net Peachtree City resident for 35 plus years

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Mad Mike

Although I still have no clue who you are, I do have a name and a quick google search notifies me that you are one in which not to trifle. I do not use spell check as it is not part of the blog entry and the misspellings I occasionally make do not concern me. You are playing a silly game with labels. I dub thee Malcontre and I am sure you care not. Good day :)

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Touche' Wedge

:)

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madmike leave your rules on the table

MM we can read what you think and see you are a man who stays in his own corner holding to his/her point of view. The label you place on some is yours and most of us if not all see your idea of how we should use screen names funny.

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Awesome T-Man

If I offer some form of entertainment then my posts here are not a waste. That is why my love for MYTMITE runs so deep, she makes me laugh... but alas, she always shuns my passes.

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Oh, Wedge, I am almost doubled up in spasms of laughter. I

just got around to Mad Mike's post to you correcting your spelling of impostor. I guess he must be 'wary' of us on here who does not have his acumen. Just go back and read his many posts where each and every one had errors, spelling, grammar and punctuation. Guess he sits with granny's dictionary beside him now as he blogs. I think he has the Funk down--just hasn't been able to handle the Wagnall's yet. Sure gave me my laugh for the day.

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Mike LaTella

I like that you are brave enough to use your real name on here, Mr. LaTella. It shows that you have nothing to hide. Like if someone decided to go to the County Clerk's website and look up, let's say, your criminal record, I'm sure they would not find anything.

Such a big man setting everyone straight on here.

Side note to regular bloggers: Keep an eye out for Mytmite this Saturday for me. There are some looneys in this town.

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Jevank

Now that is funny. Especially when you know a small portion of the story :)

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Wedge, I think Jevank has his number--the funny part is just

what number? Hope to see you Saturday--and maybe you can provide--as Paul Harvey used to say----"the rest of the story." I just happened to think, since he is in charge, do we have to get his permission to meet on Saturday? Wouldn't want to cross him--after all he is "too idjit to quit." Hope to see you Saturday.

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High fives to you Jevank. So sorry we will not get to meet

Saturday. I think I would have enjoyed that so much. Thanks for the heads-up to the regulars. You can never have too many friends looking out for you but I really don't worry about the looneys--I can handle them. I know exactly what they will be looking for on Saturday and will be ready for them. As to my name, I would have no problem with posting it here because I really don't think there is anything the looneys on here can do to hurt me as they did dear sweet Muddle--no job to lose, no family here to hurt--but I would never give some of these idiots the pleasure of thinking they have pressured me into it. They show their stupidity by continuing to press for it. Shows just how ignorant they are---
Have a good one.

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Mytmite. This in no way detracts from my fondness of you..

But if we average bloggers had someone so seemingly dedicated to show up and constantly throw us softballs, we'd be hittin em over the fences too :-). You deceitful misleading espionage-driven blogger you.

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Drats. Red Baron you have found me out----I am really a card

carrying Tea Bagging, Newt Gingrich loving, mad about Perry, hankering for Cain conservative liberal who is really madly in love with Mike Latella. Who can resist such a manly man, who fearlessly flaunts his real name for all to see. After all he is 'bad to the bone", "too legit to quit" and has the longest tail in the room (Don't know if I would be bragging about that!) and now knows how to use a dictionary. What more could you want in a man?? Ah, unrequited love--what is one to do when her idol is so unreachable---especially since he is in the throes of a one way bromance with our Mayor. Guess I will have to be satisfied to just look upon his smiling (leering?) pic featured with his REAL name. No alias for this fine upstanding citizen----

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Capital "T" MITE

My name has a capital "T." Don't forget that. When that is left out, my Grandmother (God rest her Italian soul) rolls over in her grave and my uncles in NY get all in a tizzy. Ever heard of the "Dinner Set Gang?"

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Nope, never did but I figure the character Emily Latella

played by Gilda Radner on Saturday Night Live must have been based on a family member or you in drag.

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MYTMITE!!!

You have finally professed your love! My heart skips a beat. Let's spend some time together reliving each others mis-spellings and grammatical errors on the blogs, in front of a warm fire and with a good Funk and Wagnalls in our hands. Unless you have a large-type version I will have to bring my reading glasses though. Who knows, we may even work in some time-telling lessons! Your place or mine?

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Ah, mikey, evidently you have not gotten to the S's in that

trusty ole dictionary. If you had read and understood the meaning of Sarcasm you would have recognized it when you read it--but then you never did get what I was trying to prove to you with my post about Randy Boyette and time--Subterfuge--what you and some others on this blog have been using to cloud the issues. Of course today I can give you another S word to better describe subterfuge--Sussberg--also one of your cronies.

I hear there that there is some sort of school in the area that helps with remedial problems in comprehension, spelling etc., couldn't vouch for how good they are since I have not heard much about them but maybe you should look into it---sure couldn't hurt and they may give you a deal. Tell you what, you show me what spelling and grammatical errors I made on this site, and I will refresh your memory on yours--of course that list would be quite lengthly and I know how taxing it is to your brain to have to read more than one sentence at a time.

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MYTMITE...

you had me at "Ah, Mikey." Didn't mean to stir up another novel from you. Sigh.

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Mike & myt

maybe we can arrange a private room for you two at Starbucks tomorrow and you can stir each other's liquid caffeine!

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AHG, I would rather stick my head in a vat of boiling oil.

Did you ever get that creepy crawly feeling like ten thousand spiders are crawling up and down your arms? Well, that is what I feel just at the idea of sharing the same air with this ego-driven bozo. And before MM in his warped reasoning takes this to mean I am attracted--let me put his mind at ease-I would find a purulent boil more attractive.

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Funny AHG...

MITE is as sweet as sugar, so if she stirs my coffee with her finger it will eliminate my need for the packets. :)

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Mikey, if you had a brain you would take it out and play with it

as I am sure you do with other small objects.

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Mytmite and Madmike

Why don't you two just get a room and save some typing?

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Larry is certainly qualified for shame and ridicule

Wow. Dirty tricks. a county version straight out of John Mitchell and John Dean's playbooks.

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Cal Beverly, You

continue to astound and amaze us. A top-notch surgeon could not have done a better job of surgically removing a cancer than you have just done.

I will look forward to hearing who your next patient is going to be.

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Go Larry !!!!

Yeah, like you said in the paper---" One of the primary reasons my family and I love Peachtree City is the friendly and kind atmosphere. So why don’t we want and expect the same from our elected officials? "

I'm keeping my kids away from you pal.

Poor ole Imker has gotta be doing some stress eating right about now.

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Ptc taxpayer.....stress eating.

That's just funny right there! Bet a couple folks are wishing they could turn time back several months. It's all fun and games 'till you're busted by Cal in full view of those you hoodwinked. D'oh!

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Well Larry, that's a big fat FAIL there

Not smart, not classy at all, and pretty sleazy.

You have legitimate gripes with the Mayor but what you did sure as hell isn't any kind of way to handle it.

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For Goodness Sakes!

Talk about shooting one's self in the foot, but shooting the foot of who you're supporting? I'm sure Don is laughing his ass off right about now. A defeat of Imker will afford this uneducated and inept mayor to further embarrass this town.

It could be time to get serious about that property in SC.

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Mike King & SC Property

Can understand but you might want to scrap that "organic" deal! See you Sat am.

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Mike King & SC Property

Can understand but you might want to scrap that "organic" deal! See you Sat am.

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Cal

Excellant job Cal. Do we know if the real Greenbelt actually loaned Mr. Sussberg his userid?

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Excellant job Cal. Do we know if the real Greenbelt actually loaned Mr. Sussberg his userid?

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