Beaver - we're not illiterate! Take a deep breath. Your hate is taking it's toll on your heart. According to past contributions from this group - they're against 'criminals' not a 'race'. Am I wrong?

"We shall work and vote for the day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around, yellow can be mellow, the red man can get ahead man, and white will behave all right!"

Why does Lowery single out whites as misbehaving, when the demographics of the prison population suggest otherwise?

“...the term “democrat” originated as an epithet and referred to ‘one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.’”

...but I suspect that he merely means to observe that it will be a good thing when we finally look only to the merits of a person and not his or her gender or race.

Whites Behaving Badly?

"Lowery is a Crappy Poet"

Righhhht. And I suppose Don Imus just tells bad jokes.

That is pure B.S. It is obvious to me that Lowery hates whites.

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“...the term “democrat” originated as an epithet and referred to ‘one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.’”

LOL. Crappy poet may be true - but the video you referred us to bring back memories that have long been suppressed. That was a time that our current election is putting behind us. There aren't many politicians or 'whites' in general who would feel 'correct' in speaking so unintelligently about our Constitution. I think we're at the 'good thing' that you mention in your post. We're looking at the person - not the gender or the race.

I certainly hope that this is so.

I plan to put in a vote for McCain on election day. I cannot, in good conscience, vote for either Obama or Hillary. But it has nothing to do with either race or gender.

In all honesty, I would love to vote for a black candidate as a kind of closure on all of the racial division that we've experienced as a nation. Indeed, if candidates A and B were, in my opinion, equally qualified, but A was black and B was white, I would likely allow A's ethnicity to tip the scales so that I would vote for him/her. I think it would be good for our country in the long run. I really do.

But I am afraid that Richard has a point. I deeply suspect that there is not a small number of Obama supporters that are motivated only by the concern that I just expressed, and are willing to place the vote for a black candidate regardless of other relevant considerations.

Voting for McCain.

However, I too would love to be able to vote for a female or minority to break the barriers down further. If I drank, I would rather have a beer with Obama than any of them.

Policies first though ... after all, it's politics - not popularity.

Nicely put.

I suspect that I would really like the guy.

In a similar vein, I have found over the years that I have gotten along much better with professors and colleagues who did not share my worldview (they tended to be naturalists) than I have with a lot of preachers, etc., who did.

For one thing, the former tended to like beer.

I certainly respect that - and believe you! The interesting reality here is that the 'black' community is/was almost equally divided between Hillary and Obama. Many blacks just felt that their vote would be wasted voting for Obama - because they didn't believe he was could be elected. This campaign is historical in that he has brought together a coalition of blacks, white men, and young students - to challenge the Clintons. This, I believe, is the beginning of change in this country. Obama's winning or losing is not my issue . . my issue is the joy in witnessing this change!! (However - I would match his Harvard degree against the current president's Yale degree any day!!) LOL!

Agreed, David's mom. I thought it was quite a stretch for beaver to relate Lowery's article with the shooting at City Hall. I read Lowery's article twice now, to try and glean whether he was pointing a bigoted finger at whites, and I just didn't see it. I did gather from Lowery's article that he's peeved at the the old 'guard' that has been charged with running this country for decades, and I agree, it's time for a change.

I wonder if beaver encountered some horrible incident in his/her younger days, that has caused him/her to sound so racist at times?

I don't mind so much his apparent racism - but it's his complete disrespect for the intelligence of the participants on this blog. Most don't even respond to him anymore - but I'm concerned about the 100+ who read his 'stuff' and interpret our silence for agreement. Thanks for taking the time to 're-read' Lowrey's article. (I did the same thing - thinking that I was missing something.)

I am trying to understand the racism you and others are referring to. Are you choosing to focus on a few bloggers and disregarding the huge number of 'whites' voting for Obama?

If so, why are you looking so hard for the few who are even considering race and disregarding the so many who are not?

Being bi-racial is a curse only whenever people choose to make race an issue.

Obviously, the masses are disregarding race in the political contest at hand, why not join us?

No, you are right. There is nothing in the Lowrey post that justifies whatever in the heck it is that Beaver is trying to say.

So the guy who shot up the town hall was black? Is that it? (I seem to have missed a clear statement that this is so.)

If so, this is something of an anomaly, as, statisically, I am far more likely to be the guy to do that sort of thing than my black neighbor: White, middle-aged, generally conservative beliefs, etc.

It seems to me that such finger-pointing is highly selective.

are greatly appreciated and will be passed on to Mrs. Yard. I am surprised that no one jumped on my comments on the Obama article though. Combined with the startling turnout numbers nationwide for the Democratic Party, it would appear that the Republican Party is on the ebb. The last few years have done more to coalesce the progressive electorate in this country than anything else. As noble as some of the actions of the current administration may appear to the conservative population, the struggle for the "soul of the nation" must recognize that there is an alternative that the people are searching for. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Yardman,

Pearl's Elegant Pellican is fabulous (although I think it changed names since I was there). It's still on LaRoche (I think). But the absolute BEST dining experience is at Georges on Tybee. The wine list is to die for and the dessert chef is award winning. One insider tip: skip Elizabeth's on 37th. I thought it was snooty, over priced and I left hungrier than when I got there.

Be good to She Whom (You) Must Obey.

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Try the Italian Pizza--excellent!

I love Tybee and wish I was there. Not very good surf for the most part, but it is the closest "fix" for this South Floridian who grew up by the ocean.

A stroll out on the pier is therapeutic.

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Beautiful place, love it. Enjoy, and tell Mrs. Yard to have a great birthday.

Now, does she know you're blogging while you're celebrating her birthday. Are you crazy!!!!
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They love having them put up, but taking them down, well, that's just too much trouble.

I may just go up there and run over all of 'em.

I am in Carrollton right now so I can't pick those up, but I am sure someone will. I have in my email box an email from the campaign that says,

"Some have asked, "what should we do now?"

Well here are a list of tasks that still need to be done.

-Collect all the signs from the roads so that we can re-use them in other states."

So I believe it will get done. (I am picking up Carrollton at least)
Huckabee 08'

will be campaigning for Hillary, now that Romney has dropped out? She detests McCain and Huckabee is a lost cause, except in the southern states of Redneckistan.

Oh.... the intrigue!

I'm thinking that this election is repudiating all that Limbaugh and Coulter stood for. (Thank God!!) Their time is just about up.

On this website, a lot of the hardcore right-wingers are gone as well. Good riddance!

These last few years of the Bush administration have been just like a Greek tragedy. Hubris (arrogant pride) always leads to a fall from grace.

Now it's time to start cleaning up the mess.

Folks worried about Rush crack me up. He must really be under people's skin. I don't care for his show myself, but in all reality, he is just an entertainer.

That being said, I'll be voting for McCain this fall.

It's that whole crew of neo-cons, including FauxNews. I don't mind conservatives; I like McCain. Ironically, I came to this website a couple of years ago, and spoke up for McCain, when he was a "maverick" who was being shunned by mainstream Republicans. I was ridiculed by several of the regulars here.

McCain has always had real integrity. He spoke out early on about how the war in Iraq was being mismanaged, when that position was very unpopular among Republicans, but he supported Bush's decision last year to use a troop surge and "stay the course", even when other Republicans were hemming and hawing, and distancing themselves from the war.

Personally, I thought the troop surge would not work at all, but it does seem to be working better now than before the surge. Just think how well things would have turned out if Bush had listened to his generals and sent enough troops to do the job right in the first place. Or better yet, if he had stayed out of Iraq altogether.

In any event, McCain spoke with integrity, and Bush would have done well to have listened, instead of surrounding himself with yes-men.

I suspect the Democrat nominee will be Obama, and I'll probably vote for him. However, if McCain takes office, we will be in good hands. You can be sure that he WILL listen to his generals, and he WILL take care of our troops, not stick them in some hell-hole without a real plan.

I really don't understand the antipathy towards John McCain on the part of certain republicans. I'm not exactly out putting up signs for him. I wonder what the heck he had in mind with that bit of stuff on immigration that he did with Ted Kennedy. And the "Bomb Iran" joke was a bomb.

But I think he has served our country with integrity. And I figure that I should either be willing to compromise with candidates on some issues or run myself (which would be a disaster).

I'll place a vote for John McCain and sleep well that evening.

Conservatives who speak seriously of voting for Hillary in a McCain vs. Clinton election simply have to be out of their minds.

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Why do they hate McCain?

Because he is a strong supporter of legalized abortion? Nope, he has a lifelong career record of being anti-abortion.

Because he is a supporter of amensty for illegals? Gee, so is George W. Bush!

Because he is for less war overseas and will get us out of Iraq? Heck no, he has stated he expects US troops in Iraq for "the next 100 years," and says war with Iran "is still on the table.

Because he will restore our relations with the rest of the world? Umm...he has strongly criticized European countries in the past, and is one of Russia's strongest critics!

Because he supports life in prison instead of capital punishment? Nope, he is lifelong supporter of the death penalty

No the reason the extremist wing of the Republican party (the enigmas, the BPRs, the Conners of the world) hate McCain because he went on record and called them for what they are: "agents of intolerance"!!

And on and on it goes.

The Dem primary is going to get very ugly soon.

I have no problem voting for McCain over either of the current Dem choices.

We have seen, due to the winner take all states accelerating the GOP race, what negative politics will do. I believe you are going to see some sickening cumbayaa moments ahead. Even I'm growing weary of this 24/7 political sensory overload.

Kevin "Hack" King

Just my opinion. I see no need to draw it out the way we do. Seems to me it should be starting about now.

Redneckistan

You sound like you are from California.
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Must be a Yankee term for the south. Southern people are sometimes portrayed as redneck, moonshine swilling Deliverance types.
I don't know anyone like that myself. I do know a few smart aleck Yankees. They must like us or they wouldn't be here.

Ah gee. . How to put this delicately. ..

Nevermind.

Since moving to Georgia 4 years ago, I have heard the "N" word used more times than in my previous 42 years in California. This has been said in anger, generically and in passing - must be alright eh?

Gives a great impression to people when you speak like this. You are assuming I agree with you because I'm white.

Guess again.

Yours will be the business I will never patronize again.

Your services will never be used by me again.

Redneckistan is a very real place.

This is the 21st century people, get used to it.

you're right. I hear that word a lot and it's typically when I have the displeasure of pulling up along side a car that's got the sound cranked-up real high so that everyone has to listen to that....stuff. BTW, I'm going to rig my bicycle up so I can make everyone hear my music.

Music to Ride With Enjoy!!!

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I hate hearing that junk when my kids are in the car with me and a punk (white or black) pulls up next to us - cuss words spewing from their car radio/cd.

Put your headphones on and drown out that rap noise!

My favorite to snow ski and bike to.... Bruce Cockburn:

WATER INTO WINE

the integrity of everyone in a state because of a few people, you can always carry your self-righteous butt back to where they just beat the blacks senseless over traffic stops, I'm sure there was no racism involved with that. I'm sure your man Rodney feels ok with the beating as long as they didn't insult him at the same time.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Aww, gee. . . Guess now would be a bad time time to mention that these comments come from people who work at state, local and county government offices as well as colleges and other educational instituitons?

Charity, I deal with dozens of contractors on a daily basis. Some more sophisticated than others. But many are indeed Redneck White Trash. I have to be honest. I rarely hear the word use by even them. But you ought to hear some of the African Americans that come through the door.

Over the years I have to admit that I've heard that word spew from the mouths of people from all parts of the country. Please hop off your high horse. You're bound to get knocked off.

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Did you get to go to Anthony's? I was at a convention- I have to meet you. You seem so sweet- I need that.

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Yes, from the west (Calif and other states), as I mentioned in one of my posts about Berkeley recently.

I poke fun of the south, even though it has been a nice place for us to live these past few years (love Atlanta and the FLA beaches!). We just can't get used to the ultra-conservatism out here, and never will. So... it's back to the west for us someday!

BTW - my husband is an avid cyclist. I wonder if you two have ever crossed paths?

And take your avid cyclist with you. IT will help to clear the trash blocking traffic every day. One less sissy biker will not be missed.

I didn't know you cared about us cyclists.
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BRAG is not for sissies! You have to have the stamina and strength! So do cyclists!

The shorts, that's another story.

I like my shorts. One day, I'll fit back in them.
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Really?

Avid Cyclist. Na not me; but, I did stay at an Holiday Inn Express. Actually, warmer weather is coming up and it will be time once again.

Did your husband do "BRAG" this year?
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Nope, he didn't do BRAG but he may this year, if his biking buddy talks him into it. He's a bit of a soloist and doesn't like biking with a pack too much.

Sounds like that not again person dislikes cyclists (anti-spandexite).

Share the road.

My husband and I rode in a BRAG tune-up, once (Newnan 2002). I had a mountain bike with a baby seat on the back and a lop-sided helmet that kept falling over my eyes. Luckily, we opted for the 26 mile trek rather than the 60 mile trek. I was crying at the 13 mile rest stop (across the street from the Bonnie Castle) and didn't want to leave. I really, really wanted to flag down the BRAG truck during the last 13 miles. I had to walk my bike up slight inclines. I thought my legs were going to fall off, my hands hurt from gripping the handle bars and my back was throbbing. Our biking thoughts had always been....gentle rolling hills...how relaxing and scenic. Ha ha ha....NOT anymore!! It's not as easy as it looks! I'll stick to hiking!!!

There's a few. That's how I got started on this forum.
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Now you are the cyclist that I am- ultra-conservative- hey your totally cool dude also.

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I think Main did not understand your comment.

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I spoke with you friend Git, I must say he is totally one cool dude.

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So you talked to the old goat, eh.

BTW, I'm still waiting for your check. Since I'm now out of the running for my party, I'm giving it all to "Git"" for his election campaign.
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He had me laughing so hard, he is a hoot- your three would get along great with my husband-

I sent the check today- Git has to win- did you get the signs up?

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They say Git the Judge. I substituted "for" with "the". What do you think?
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You did good!
REAL GOOD!

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Gotta get my son, later. Look for the check, and let's not give up on Git.

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You dislike Ann Coulter as much as me- we think alike. If McCain wins in the republican party I will not vote, he should be a democrat- so you will get your democrat President. For 4 years. Glad to have had President George W. Bush for 8 years.

I will miss Romney sure nice to look at.

BTW President George W. Bush is still in office- What a guy! You have 9 more months of him.

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I like the way you disarm us rabid liberals with smily faces. It works. I hope you are as cheerful in person. I'm confused though. You have never told me why you (or we) should be happy about the President's performance over the last 7 years. My thought process is:

-Osama Bin Laden has not been killed by us.
-My money is worth less everywhere I go.
-Our President says we are in a long war but won't raise money to pay for it.
-Our President has said that a vote for democrats (who, coincidentally are Americans) "is a vote for terrorists"
Our President does not communicate very well.

Other than that, I like him; great father and husband, but I'm looking more for someone who can run a country; no what I mean? Anyway, I come in peace and always will. Have a great weekend with your adorable kid and overly handsome husband.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

All of us will be rooting for you in your upcoming bout!

Here's a couple of random thoughts...

- Would Bin Laden still be alive if John Kerry or Al Gore were elected?
- The economy is a nightmare....but would the mortgage bubble have busted with Gore or Kerry as president?
- The age ole' question...do you lower taxes and expect the top income folks to spend more, or do you raise taxes on the "evil" rich?
- That's just propaganda...we all know that if Hillary or Obama were elected that an immediate withdrawal would be a nightmare...
- You are dead on...Bush does have issues communicating. Bush versus Obama in a debate would be quite interesting, even for this republican!

Bush is a good family man, just like Obama. I won't speak about Clinton....maybe she is OK, even after her husband's past transgressions. McCain shouldn't bring up marital issues when you objectively consider his past...

PS: I don't post often, but I have "lurked" for quite awhile. You always do a good job of remaining objective in your posts...

Let's just say that "remaining objective" has been a process. Nice to see you weigh in. I'm trying to cut way, way back on blogging, so this is a rare moment of blog productivity for me.

"- Would Bin Laden still be alive if John Kerry or Al Gore were elected?
- The economy is a nightmare....but would the mortgage bubble have busted with Gore or Kerry as president?"

That is not an answerable question, Rock. I would like to think any other president would have acted on the Presidential Daily Bulletin "Al Qaeda determined to attack within U.S. using aircraft," but we will never know. What we do know is President Bush's fiscal policies have not been very fruitful, and our foreign policy has been a bit adrift.

We can ask if another captain of the Exxon Valdize would have run it aground, but we definitely will not look to hire the captain that DID run it aground or anyone that swears "he has really been a great captain." Just my opinion though. Enjoy the weekend!

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King

Would like to hear your description of a "family" man! Just leave religion, Jewery, Muslimic, etc., out of it, please.

Does a family man's wife sell MaryJanein college? Do his kids have fake I.D.s, so as to be able to drink in bars?
Is he in favor of "waterboarding?" AA meetings, maybe?
And on and on?

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Thank you that you think I am cheerful.

Next coffee blog we can discuss this in detail.

All the guys said only great things about you.

Have a good weekend, I love my adorable kid and ever so handsome husband, now I think that is cute.

Tug is so sweet- she adores you, so I know you are a pleasant person.

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